Just wondering. I sent him an email almost a week ago. I have not seen a response yet and my exhaust is officialy cut off! :ohmy: … And at the scrapyard.
Anyone got a response from exhaust guy?
DriverGT5
#2
Not yet. I’ve got a 2 foot long hole in mine. If I can’t get this thing in the next week or so I’m just going to put on a local one and to heck with the spec exhaust. I only run in the southeast anyway.
M3Bill
#4
If I don’t hear from him by the middle of next week, I am going with the Patton exhaust setup.
scottmc
#6
Gasman wrote:
The patch guy said he was going to wait to go into full production until he gets final dyno numbers.
Don’t rush him. He’s making each patch by hand.
IndyJim
#7
The patch guy could have just thrown together some cheap patches using children in China, but these are high quality patches hand crafted and sewn in the US. The focus is on high quality and low cost.
Age
#8
I feel a little guilty, but I DID hear from the exhaust guy yesterday. He said he was heading down to Sebring this w.e. and he was going to be shipping next week. Timing is definately a little tight, but we should be able to make it as long as they don’t take more than a week or so to get to us.
Ex36
#9
DriverGT5 wrote:
What does this mean??
Did I miss the memo that the rules don’t apply to the Southeast Region?:ohmy:
Sasha
DriverGT5
#10
Ex36 wrote:
[quote]DriverGT5 wrote:
What does this mean?? Did I miss the memo that the rules don’t apply to the Southeast Region?:ohmy:
Sasha[/quote]
Regions are basically independent contractors. It’s up to each regional director to set the rules for their group. They can add and subtract rules from a class if they feel it will improve safety or encourage participation. Let’s not forget that each region is trying to make money. Since nearly 100% of SE drivers run the old style exhaust, it doesn’t make much sense to force them all to switch exhausts if they don’t want to. Given the old exhaust is almost guaranteed to not be a performance advantage, no harm no foul. I know I’m not going to protest any of my fellow racers for having an old exhaust past July because that’s just plain stupid.
Gasman
#11
DriverGT5 wrote:Regions are basically independent contractors. It’s up to each regional director to set the rules for their group. They can add and subtract rules from a class if they feel it will improve safety or encourage participation. Let’s not forget that each region is trying to make money. Since nearly 100% of SE drivers run the old style exhaust, it doesn’t make much sense to force them all to switch exhausts if they don’t want to. Given the old exhaust is almost guaranteed to not be a performance advantage, no harm no foul. I know I’m not going to protest any of my fellow racers for having an old exhaust past July because that’s just plain stupid.[/quote]
The new exhaust isn’t mandantory until June as I recall. That being said, your comment about regional directors being able to add/subtract or establish rules for the group to encourage participation could not be more false. How in the world were you lead to this improper conclusion?
Gasman
#13
DriverGT5 wrote:
[quote]Gasman wrote:
What makes you so certain I’m wrong?[/quote]
In short…the rules.
leggwork
#14
this is a National class. Maybe a few regional exceptions/allowances here and there - but don’t expect sustained changing of the rules.
bruce
DriverGT5
#15
Gasman wrote:
[quote]DriverGT5 wrote:
[quote]Gasman wrote:
What makes you so certain I’m wrong?[/quote]
In short…the rules.[/quote]
Well then I’m sure it’ll be easy for you to point me to the rule that says the Regional Director doesn’t have the power to alter regional races. The only rule I can find seems to say he has the power provided the Executive Director allows it.
CCR 2.7.5
"He/she will also ensure that all events
are run in accordance with all* rules set forth in the CCR. *[Some allowances can be
made, with authorization from the Executive Director, but only with respect non-safety
related items.]"
Add to this the fact that it has already been stated on numerous occasions that the rule would be optional in the SE. Of course I’m not an official anymore, nor am I privy to any of the meetings between the regional directors and national staff so take my statement with a grain of salt. I guess we’ll all see come July.
secu
#16
Just to let people know, the guy making the exhausts is down at Sebring right now for the PBOC event, so that’s why the responses are slow this week. I would assume he’d be back in touch with everyone in the next day or 2.
Gasman
#18
Rob, you conveniently left out the next sentence of the rule you quoted. My black and white interpretation is that it defer’s to the class rules. If spec e30 creates the rule and we run in that class, the rule is the rule IMO and the director can make no exception unless it is a safety issue. Hey, I could care less either way, but I believe if we are going to have a rule book, we should follow it to the letter of the law and exceptions should only be allowed if you are running outside of the class. In other words if you run for fun, no foul. If you run for points, follow the rules.
leggwork
#19
Here is the whole quote.
A Regional Director can make allowances re CCR rules, not the rules of a series/class. The way I read the safety thing is that a Regional Director cannot make allowances related to the safety items in the CCR rules.
bruce
[quote]2.7.5 Regional Director
The Regional Director has total authority over all officials within his/her assigned
chapter(s). He/she is responsible to oversee all aspects of the events conducted by
his/her chapter(s). The Regional Director shall particularly oversee the appointment of
Race Director(s) and School (HPDE) Director(s). He/she will also ensure that all events
are run in accordance with all* rules set forth in the CCR. *[Some allowances can be
made, with authorization from the Executive Director, but only with respect non-safety
related items.] The Divisional Director may, from time to time, make observations and
recommend corrections for those things that he/she deems to be in nonconformance
with these rules. Should the Regional Director fail to properly make the corrections
requested to be in compliance with these rules, the Divisional Director should make a
detailed report to the Chief Divisional Director. The Divisional Director has no authority
to set mandates upon any Regional Director, except in the course of duty as specifically
assigned and authorized by the Chief Divisional Director. The Regional Director must
comply in cases where the Divisional Director makes mandates upon the region that are
necessary to carry out the assignment from the Chief Divisional Director.[/quote]