What Brake Pads are people using

#1

As the subject says… What brake pads are people using and what do you like or dislike about them

#2

I’ve been using Hawk HT-10 (front and rear) and have been pleased with their performance.

Rob has said they (Bimmerworld) are looking at getting a set Performance Friction pads for e30’s… which I’d be interested in giving a try.

It seems like the other pad most people are using are Carbotech’s. Not sure which ones. I’ve offten thought of giving them a shot. It’s just hard to switch when you are happy with what you’re using.

If it Ain’t Broke

Keep in mind, I’ve only done DE’s

#3

Hawk HT10s front and rear.

#4

DMoses wrote:

+1

#5

Hawk HT10 Front and Mintex (from Bimmerworld) rear…

#6

Ht-10s front - Mintex or HP plus rear.

#7

thanks for the responses. This is a great forum for advice on building the car It is definitely a lot of fun building the car (until I look at the credit card bill) can’t wait to get it on the track

#8

I am building a new car, I am going to be running the CarboTech’s. Same as Cobetto and same as I ran for the past 4 years with 944Cup. I like them. They were a sponsor for 944 Cup so I received numerous cash discounts and % off rewards which also was an incentive.

#9

erupert66 wrote:

Which compound are you using? XP12? They are pretty expensive compared to the Hawk HT10’s. I have been trying to get on they’re website but it seems to be down. Any idea where I can get info on these?

#10

screwynewy wrote:

[quote]
Which compound are you using? XP12? They are pretty expensive compared to the Hawk HT10’s. I have been trying to get on they’re website but it seems to be down. Any idea where I can get info on these?[/quote]

I ordered XP10 front and XP8 rear on their recommendation.

Here’s the contact info:

Danny Puskar
Carbotech Performance Brakes
Marketing & Sales
2407 South Post Road
Shelby, NC 28150
(704)-481-8500 phone #
(704)-481-8554 fax #
(216)-469-7462 cell #
www.ctbrakes.com

I don’t have any trouble getting on the site. It is a "flash" site though I think.

#11

smithk3933 wrote:

What’s the compound difference between an HT10 and a 9012 (Blue). I always used the Hawk Blue in my 911 switched to CarboTech on the 944 because a set came on the car, they were a series sponsor and I didn’t see any reason to change.

#12

I don’t know the compound chemistry but I do know that the Blues have more initial bite. Some like that and some do not. I’ve run the HT-10’s (at James Clay’s suggestion) and they work just fine for me.

#13

Blues also produce dust that welds itself to your wheels if it gets wet…
cheers,
bruce

#14

leggwork wrote:

[quote]Blues also produce dust that welds itself to your wheels if it gets wet…
cheers,
bruce[/quote]

That’s not entirely true. I’ve used Hawk Blues for years racing, including in the rain at races and schools, and never once had a problem with this rusting dust. The key is that they need to be at proper operating temp. Run them cold and you’ll eat the rotors which produces this nasty dust that rusts.

For these cars the only place I’d consider using them is in the rear anyway, HT10 up front is waaaaaaay better and super cheap. Since the rear pad doesn’t matter as much we’ll probably run the Porterfield R4 or the Mintex 1144…which are both cheaper also. We can’t adjust bias so the rear pad is not nearly as significant.

I’d never run HT10’s in the rear though, never keep them at temp and they’ll be grabby, potentially not good when trail braking or in high speed tap/turn situations!

#15

I’ve got HT10’s in the rear (and front) and I feel like I get almost too much rear bias. Trail braking is no problem, if not maybe too good. Sometimes it feels like the rear end is a little squirrely under heavy braking with any amount of steering input, like the end of the back straight at VIR. I have thought about using Mintex to even balance out the front/rear bias a little.

#16

screwynewy wrote:

In addition, you tend to overheat your rear tires by dragging them and in the latter parts of the race, the car is more tail-happy. Did I just give away a secret? :ohmy:

#17

I think it has always been common to run a lesser compound pad in the rear on E30’s to settle the car down a bit under braking. I guess it kind of acts as a brake bias. Ive always heard that anyway on teh intraweb so it must be true!

Seriously though, Ive always run a staggered compund and my car has always felt great.

#18

anyone have any luck with feroddo pads? I’ve have good luck with the ds2500 in my mini cooper S, I was gonna try a ds2500 rear and ds3000 front (btw, I’m liking the e30 already, brakes are waaaay cheaper for this car) and see how it went, just wanted to know if anyone out there has tried it yet

#19

The key you’ll find is to run a pad with more control to stop the car quickly. Not hinder youself by running a crappy pad with no bite so the rear brakes just make the fronts do all the work.

You’ll have to play around a bit and find a combination that works for you, but running a street pad that is operating outside the designed temperture range isn’t going to be the ultimate solution.

#20

screwynewy wrote:

Ken:
I recently switched from your current setup (agreed with your impressions) to Hawk DTC60 in front and Original BMW in the rear. More stable now but still rotates beautifully when you need it to.
-Matt