The great Gress goatf**k.

#41

Ranger - Brendan is picking up your exhaust now since that is near his shop.

If you want something ordered give him a call it might be a stretch but might be able to pull it off for tomorrow.

#42

Exhaust is ‘confirmed’ repo’d.

Q: What is a goatf_ck with a happy ending?

A: Something Jones orders in Tijuana.

Bam Roasted.

#43

My Savannah shop just called re. my compression test. #'s are surprising. Alex had told me that I was way down in 2 cylinders, so he had to do the ring job. Recall that the idea was that rings got stuck due to new tight head. Alex said that the ring job was done and it dyno’d well, but it’s far more likely that the ring/hone job was never done.

My local, very good shop, says that the compression results are:
210 220 150 235 210 220

They are struggling to understand how the compression #'s could be so high. Normal range is 142-156psi I think. Any ideas? They are suspicious about cam timing and we are going to check this in the morning. Your thoughts?

Can someone bring a compression tester? Any tools needed to screw with cam timing?

Getting the exhaust back is just kick ass. Who’d a thought something would go right Damn that’s just awesome. My thanks to Brendan.

#44

IndyJim wrote:

[quote]Exhaust is ‘confirmed’ repo’d.

Q: What is a goatf_ck with a happy ending?

A: Something Jones orders in Tijuana.

Bam Roasted.[/quote]

I’d be happy to never read (or hear) goatf_ck and happy ending used in the same sentence ever again :X

#45

Ranger wrote:

[quote]My Savannah shop just called re. my compression test. #'s are surprising. Alex had told me that I was way down in 2 cylinders, so he had to do the ring job. Recall that the idea was that rings got stuck due to new tight head. Alex said that the ring job was done and it dyno’d well, but it’s far more likely that the ring/hone job was never done.

My local, very good shop, says that the compression results are:
210 220 150 235 210 220

They are struggling to understand how the compression #'s could be so high. Normal range is 142-156psi I think. Any ideas? They are suspicious about cam timing and we are going to check this in the morning. Your thoughts?[/quote]

I’m guessing he messed up the head job and he knew it.

That’s why he was dragging his feet on getting the car finished. He was hoping to get enough time to figure out what he messed up so he could fix that and then claim he had done the ring/hone job and collect more money.

I would suggest maybe just putting on a used head on the bottom end and see how the engine does rather than swapping the whole engine.

I would help in anyway I can (which means I will stay far enough away and hold the lights for others). Do you need a DME reset tool?

#46

Ranger,

I’ve never met you, nor likely will as I don’t make SE events (only MA). I am truly sorry to hear of these events. I went through it once and it is horrible.

This might be just the right motivation for the SpecE30 community to start a list of reputable parts, service, cage, motor, etc providers. Along with the list could be posts from SpecE30 racers discussing their experiences with places they endorse or recommend against.

Best of luck with the new motor. Your level of patience and professionalism in the face of hell is an example for us all.

Jon M.

#47

TheRedBaron wrote:

[quote]The Help Ranger List
snip

  • valve adjustment gauge
    [/quote]

I am oddly embarrassed to say I have a set of feeler gauges because I would be hard pressed to figure out where to start on valve adjustment, but I will bring them…

Steve D.

#48

2 gallons of distilled water.

I can do the valve adj, cam adjustment, whatever needs to be done. BTDT.

JP

#49

My new nick name will be Repo Man!Work was light today so went out for a bike ride,on the way home from doing laps at Stone Mtn, decided agaist my better judgment( Im a racer) to scout out the sitution with Ranger exhaust! Saw where it was siting plannned my entrance and exit , rode home put some pants over my tights jumped in the truck , Cranked up the sound track to Repo Man, as Jim would say BAM,grabbed the exhuast threw it in the truck wnet though some Neighborhoods , stopped to secure the exhust, so it wasn’t hanging out the back, and took it over to CG’s house.

Ranger Unless you have some 12 to 1 pistons on 5 cyls , something is fouled up! I would suspect that the timing is off, I would also guees that some valves got bent??? I will be at CMP tommorow with Indy Jim , I’ll be glad to take a look at your engine/boat anchor and tell you what I think happened
BD

#50

csrow wrote:

[quote]
I would suggest maybe just putting on a used head on the bottom end and see how the engine does rather than swapping the whole engine.[/quote]

Swap the whole motor, then figure out what’s going on in the screwed up one. Don’t waste even more time and money (head bolts, gasket, blah blah blah) until you can diagnose what has been done, what was/is wrong, etc.

Edit: I’ll be bringing your exhaust on my trailer up to CMP… Should be there noon or so (sorry, that means 1200 hours to you). Welded I see, too…

#51

csrow wrote:

[quote]Ranger wrote:

[quote]My Savannah shop just called re. my compression test. #'s are surprising. Alex had told me that I was way down in 2 cylinders, so he had to do the ring job. Recall that the idea was that rings got stuck due to new tight head. Alex said that the ring job was done and it dyno’d well, but it’s far more likely that the ring/hone job was never done.

My local, very good shop, says that the compression results are:
210 220 150 235 210 220

They are struggling to understand how the compression #'s could be so high. Normal range is 142-156psi I think. Any ideas? They are suspicious about cam timing and we are going to check this in the morning. Your thoughts?[/quote]

I’m guessing he messed up the head job and he knew it.

That’s why he was dragging his feet on getting the car finished. He was hoping to get enough time to figure out what he messed up so he could fix that and then claim he had done the ring/hone job and collect more money.

I would suggest maybe just putting on a used head on the bottom end and see how the engine does rather than swapping the whole engine.

I would help in anyway I can (which means I will stay far enough away and hold the lights for others). Do you need a DME reset tool?[/quote]

Hmm. Anyone have a headgasket and bolts?

I still can’t come up with a scenario that increases compression unless the pistons or head were heavily modified. Or the head was decked like crazy. But nothing I can imagine would cause a 40% decrease unswept cylinder volume. That’s just nuts.

#52

I actually have a spare head gasket, but no bolts. Let me know before 0800 hrs (aka 8 am) tomorrow if you think you want the head gasket and I’ll tote it.

But please don’t swap the junkyard head onto your current block…

#53

TheRedBaron wrote:

[quote]I actually have a spare head gasket, but no bolts. Let me know before 0800 hrs (aka 8 am) tomorrow if you think you want the head gasket and I’ll tote it.

But please don’t swap the junkyard head onto your current block…[/quote]

Craig, bring the headgasket pls. Better it comes then I end up wishing that it had come.

Re. head swap on to old motor. We’ll have more info tomorrow. I’m going to go to the local shop and look at the cam (they are too busy tomorrow to do it themselves), and we’ll have lots of smart folks looking at it tomorrow. With more info and with smart folks looking at it, we’ll make a good decision as to how to proceed.

#54

Noted.

#55

Wow, what a crazy story…I hope you plan on suing the crap out of him. If you need a lawyer, let me know. I know a few.

Now I need to find a motor for you guys to swap. :woohoo:

#56

Scott, please give us a rundown:
Brendan=exhaust
Chuck=clutch
Robert=cherry picker
OPM=spare engine

There is a long list of stuff I’ve missed.Help fill in the blanks before we all leave tomorrow.

Regards,Robert Patton

PS this is cool. Thanks everyone.

#57

Patton wrote:

[quote]Scott, please give us a rundown:
Brendan=exhaust
Chuck=clutch
Robert=cherry picker
OPM=spare engine
Head Bolts and Gasket (if available), Chuck (check w/supplier in the am)

There is a long list of stuff I’ve missed.Help fill in the blanks before we all leave tomorrow.

Regards,Robert Patton

PS this is cool. Thanks everyone.[/quote]

#58

ctbimmer wrote:

[quote]Patton wrote:

[quote]Scott, please give us a rundown:
Brendan=exhaust
Chuck=clutch
Robert=cherry picker
OPM=spare engine
Head Bolts and Gasket (if available), Chuck (check w/supplier in the am)

There is a long list of stuff I’ve missed.Help fill in the blanks before we all leave tomorrow.

Regards,Robert Patton

PS this is cool. Thanks everyone.[/quote][/quote]

I’ll get some generic gasket sealer. If something nongeneric is needed, than that would be something to bring.

Someone bringing a compression tester?

Headbolts remain iffy.

Otherwise everything I’ve seen on the list is covered.

Is a damn fine crowd.

#59

Regular old RTV sealant will work. I have a compression tester to bring as well.

#60

Scott what time is this all going to start? My Dad and I are more than willing to help out where ever we can.