After doing the Comp school last week, I realized the standard mirror doesn’t cut it when you have nets and a HNR on. Looking around there appears to be two options, a convex mirror and a multipanel mirror. Any pros and cons to either? Any suggestions for mounting?
Mirrors and visibility
Ranger
#2
http://www.allviewmirror.com/ram.htm Hands down the best solution.
Wide field of view without the depth perception distortion of a panaramic. Multipanel mirrors suffer from mis-aligned panels.
Steve_D
#3
I have a Longacre fisheye mirror on my left and a 14" convex in the traditional rear view mirror position. Both are mounted to my cage.
I don’t find the depth perception issue a problem. Just remember “objects in mirror are closer than they appear.” With this setup I can see cars beside me without turning my head. I don’t concern myself with cars behind me. Once they are along side, then it’s an issue. :laugh:
natblack
#5
Ranger wrote:
[quote]http://www.allviewmirror.com/ram.htm Hands down the best solution.
Wide field of view without the depth perception distortion of a panaramic. Multipanel mirrors suffer from mis-aligned panels.[/quote]
Agree with Ranger here (did I just say that 
?!)
I have the all view in my car and really like it much more than the convex I had previously.
One issue I ran into was the rollbar mount didn’t work at all for me - I couldn’t see a damn thing behind me with it that close to me/high in the car. (Something I should have tried before going to Sebring the first time). I ended up using the adjustable windshield mount and adhesive (like a traditional rearview mirror) and putting it on the inside of the front glass. Not sure if it was due to my seating position, cage config, my seat is on sliders, my height - who knows. Just something to consider.
Ranger
#6
Fred42 wrote:
From last year:
Fred42 wrote:
[quote]Ranger wrote:
[quote]
For those of you that are unaware, Fred had to get surgery on his right wrist. It seems that he has been over-using it for years. When I asked him what he has been doing all this time to wear out his right wrist, he suddenly got embarassed and furtive.[/quote]
Nothing like a little support from your friends when you’re down…[/quote]
danny325is
#9
I have tried mounting a Wink and a Longacre to my roll cage and like Natblack I felt they were too close and had to look too far up.
I now have a convex mirror on the stock one.
I am on the larger side and I have a Fat boy seat with head restraints. The seat is mounted as low as it can go and it still almost touches the roof of the car. so I can’t see over my head. I cant see anything directly behind my driver’s seat. I didn’t think this would be that big of a deal, but after my first comp school, I am bound to fine an new solution.
After seeing the cars at NJMP this weekend. i am gonna try mounting my Longacre on the Left hand side of the roll bar angled toward the right rear.
I am still looking for suggestions
rsott
#10
Ranger wrote:
[quote]http://www.allviewmirror.com/ram.htm Hands down the best solution.
Wide field of view without the depth perception distortion of a panaramic. Multipanel mirrors suffer from mis-aligned panels.[/quote]
+1
Steve_D
#12
The only real advantage with the Longacre is in case you break it taking off your helmet, you are more likely to see a vendor at the track with a Longacre replacement.
I broke mine at Miller and was relieved to get an exact replacement so I didn’t have anything new to adjust to.
The Allview looks nice though.
Those having problems with Longacre, have you used the long brackets running parallel to the windshield (to get the mirror down and forward as far as possible)? I might have an extra pair in the garage somewhere…
ctbimmer
#13
I have a Longacre and like it. I seem to recall (I’m not at home right now) that I fabricated extensions for the brackets (my brackets have brackets) so I could mount it even further forward. It ends up in front of the halo hoop. Also note that the positioning of my camera and my mirror work nicely together, as in my videos you can see what is going on around me very well. I hate looking at other videos where you have no clue what is beside or behind the camera car until they finally come into view. I also have a cheap 1x2 inch convex (truck stop quality) stick-on on the drivers side mirror to help close the blind spot that remained.
BigKeyserSoze
#15
To fix the left side window net visibility problem, I removed the window net and run with arm restraints.
Then I started getting black flagged for not having a window net. You come in and they apologize for their mistakes but its too late.
Do what you need, but don’t fix the problem like I did.
-Scott
jlevie
#16
BigKeyserSoze wrote:
[quote]To fix the left side window net visibility problem, I removed the window net and run with arm restraints.
Then I started getting black flagged for not having a window net. You come in and they apologize for their mistakes but its too late.
Do what you need, but don’t fix the problem like I did.
-Scott[/quote]
A better fix for that is to shorten the window net so that it doesn’t go so far forward as to occlude the mirror.
leggwork
#18
arm restraints don’t do anything to stop the crap that flies in the window - I’d be more worried about that than arms out the window in a crash. (but both are a concern)
I don’t see anything in the CCR that makes arm restraints be a substitute for a window net. (15.10 doesn’t give an option).
bruce
BigKeyserSoze wrote:
[quote]To fix the left side window net visibility problem, I removed the window net and run with arm restraints.
Then I started getting black flagged for not having a window net. You come in and they apologize for their mistakes but its too late.
Do what you need, but don’t fix the problem like I did.
-Scott[/quote]
rrroadster
#19
I have a 4 panel wink installed.
The first time I ran it, I had it so you couldn’t see the black side portions of each panel. This sucked. The panels were at all different angles and the mirror was pretty useless. I was in a hurry to install and would have sworn when I installed you could see behind you. 
This past weekend I ran it flipped around, so you can see the black side portions of each panel. Continuity from mirror to mirror was good. However, to see directly behind me I’m trying to look right over my head. Looking at the mirror in the center of the car shows the right side area behind the car. Almost makes the passenger mirror obsolete.
The first install had the mounting brackets mounted to the 1" tall bulkhead above the forward cage bar. The current install has it hose clamped to the cage. The mirror end on the driver side is forward of the cage. The mirror transitions under the bar towards the inside of the car at mid bar with passenger side mounted to the upper cage bar protruding into the cockpit. The overall mirror is biased as far over to the driver side as the cage permits.
Is this the best I can get out of a wink installation? Are there some alternative mounting brackets for winks that might facillitate a wink install better? Note: Brackets that clamp all the way around the cage like the Long Acre? aren’t really an option. My cage is right up against the forward roof panel.
I may just nip this in the bud and get an AllView.
jlevie
#20
If you have the wink mirror in flipped the wrong way it won’t work right. The near edge of each mirror should be closest to the front of the car and the far edge closest to the rear of the car. The mirror will have to be angled a bit and is best mounted offset towards the right side of the car.
The leftmost pane of the mirror is pretty much useless, so disregard it and find a position and angle that uses the rightmost three panes. When correct you should have view to the rear and right side of the car