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I want to remove the window motors from my doors but want to keep the glass. How are you guys keeping the windows in the up or down position without the motors? I drilled a hole in the track and used a pin in my E24 race car but can’t figure out how to do that here.
Thanks,
Michael O.
I’m leaving the windows and mechanism in since I tow with an open trailer. Its not worth the hassle for me.
I put a hose clamp around the tube and captured part of the mechanism in it.
It will make sense when you are looking at a door interior…I promise.
Adjustable,simple and light
I remember Carter mention that he used a strap to pull up the window and keep it up. I will have door skins so the hose clap would be hard to get to. Anyone know how Carter did it? Any other ideas?
Michael O.
Remove the whole thing and make some plexiglass windows for transportation. Prop the plexiglass up with wooden dowels. Regards, Robert Patton
I’ve seen Robert’s setup and that’s the route I’m going to take. I’m going to get my Plexiglass this week. I like the way you can easily prop the windows up when the car is not in use or simply drop them down into the door while driving the car.
Steven
Im my ITS car I have Lexan in the front part of the window opening and a NACA duct in the Lexan to direct air to the driver. Can this be done in Spec E30? Or can I at least stick a hose out the window to gather air for the driver? I like lots of air.
Michael O.
ilateapex wrote:
[quote]I want to remove the window motors from my doors but want to keep the glass. How are you guys keeping the windows in the up or down position without the motors? I drilled a hole in the track and used a pin in my E24 race car but can’t figure out how to do that here.
Thanks,
Michael O.[/quote]
Why? So that you can move .5% of the car’s total weight down about 6"? I have never seen the reason to remove power window mechanisms when they are so handing. Some with enclosed trailers will likely chime in that they aren’t necessary, but to have a well-sealed window for open towing and a simple button to push to roll your windows up when it starts to rain is too much of a sacrifice for me for the possible benefit of relocating some weight. Remember - it’s a "low-prep, high-fun" series. This is a lot of work for little if no benefit.
My window motors don’t work very well. If I can get them to work better and I don’t need to remove the weight then I will leave them. I was just looking for options.
The amount of prep one wants to spend on their car should be up to the person spending the time. I by no means plan to strip the car to a shell and put it back together. But I do plan to go over everything and look at all the stuff closely. I have basically tore my motor apart just to clean it and replace all the leaky gaskets. I guess I could just throw in a bolt in cage, bolt on the required parts and go to the track. That is just not my way of doing it.
Michael O.
My loathing of power windows has been recorded here before. I’m still happy to lobby for a manual window provision in the rules.
I have one dead motor, and another that is hinting it would like to.
4 door car.
Carter has an "s" hook that slides under the glass and over the metal lip inside the door.
It is just long enough to catch the glass and then as he slides it forward it tightens.
Carter…throw that hook on a scanner and post it.
Ric
Somehow I just can’t visulize this. Is the S hook used to hold the window up, down or both?
Michael
During the race, the driver window is sitting in the tow vehicle. During towing and storage, the window is in the stock-up position. I drop the window into the door cavity and slide it up into it’s track. To hold it up, there is an S hook that slides under the bottom edge of the glass and on top of the door/window sill - right where your left elbow sits when driving on the street. The stock glass has a curve on the bottom edge so once the hook is in position, it can be slid rearward to wedge the glass up against the track.
Simple and works.
Also, I put a piece of fuel hose on the hook to keep it from sliding along the sill when going down the highway.
Carter
ps. Some jackleg ran over my window in the paddock at Mid Ohio (I almost threw a wrench at his rig) and shattered it. I picked up a different E30 glass (early car?) that has a flat lower edge. With a little tweaking, it works fine.
my power windows have given me nothing but trouble since I bought the car. I finally gave up with the window switches when I removed my center console. I’m still doing HPDE’s so I drive my car on the street some and have to drive to events since I dont’ have a tow vehicle an trailer.
Instead of window switches, I unplugged the wire from the window motor and took a piece of 18/2 gauge wire (simple power wire, +/-) and spliced it to the window motor wire. I took a battery from a home security panel (12v) and then touch the 18/2 wire to each terminal of the battery. Depending on if I switch the +/- around it rolls the window up and down. It takes a few minutes, but I don’t drive the car that much. You can also use a power drill battery, but the 12v seems to work well.
My rear windows (4dr) haven’t moved since I bought the car. damn electrical issues!
Carter wrote:
[quote]
… Some jackleg ran over my window in the paddock at Mid Ohio (I almost threw a wrench at his rig) and shattered it. I picked up a different E30 glass (early car?) that has a flat lower edge. With a little tweaking, it works fine…[/quote]
Wouldnt’ have happened if it was in the door where it belongs :laugh:
Door glass can get broken in other ways like say you are at VIR and some snot-nosed rich kid who’s daddy has a lot of coin to prepare him the best who blasts by on the straights only to drop anchor before the 500 mark who keeps getting re-passed but uses the motor on the straight so then he decides to divebomb you and run you off the track and so you get back to the paddock and slam your driver’s door and hear the glass shatter…
erupert66 wrote:
[quote]Carter wrote:
[quote]
… Some jackleg ran over my window in the paddock at Mid Ohio (I almost threw a wrench at his rig) and shattered it. I picked up a different E30 glass (early car?) that has a flat lower edge. With a little tweaking, it works fine…[/quote]
Wouldnt’ have happened if it was in the door where it belongs :laugh:
Door glass can get broken in other ways like say you are at VIR and some snot-nosed rich kid who’s daddy has a lot of coin to prepare him the best who blasts by on the straights only to drop anchor before the 500 mark who keeps getting re-passed but uses the motor on the straight so then he decides to divebomb you and run you off the track and so you get back to the paddock and slam your driver’s door and hear the glass shatter…
[/quote] Hmmmm…is that a hypothetical Eric?:whistle:
nasaregistrar wrote:
[/quote] Hmmmm…is that a hypothetical Eric?:whistle:[/quote]
I wish. 
I found my solution this weekend. I did it similar to how I did my E24 race car. The window has a cable that runs in a tube that acts as a window track at the front and rear of the door. At the rear where the window has a bracket that attaches the window to the track I drilled a 1/4" hole. This hole was drilled right above where there is a bolt and a slotted hole for adjustment. I then drilled a hole in the inside of the door. One hole for up and one hole for down. I then use a 1/4" pin and insert it in the upper hole for up and the lower hole for down. After I put my aluminum door skins on I will just drill a hole in them in the same location.
I was then able to remove the window motor and the wiring. I left the regulator/track/cable guide in place.
Michael O.
erupert66 wrote:
[quote]Carter wrote:
[quote]
… Some jackleg ran over my window in the paddock at Mid Ohio (I almost threw a wrench at his rig) and shattered it. I picked up a different E30 glass (early car?) that has a flat lower edge. With a little tweaking, it works fine…[/quote]
Wouldnt’ have happened if it was in the door where it belongs :laugh:[/quote]
Oh I learned my lesson.
While we were loading up when it happened and I had laid it on the ground for about a minute, the window will now either be in the tow vehicle or in the racecar.
Carter