June Jam RA Video and Stories thread


#1

Engine good, alignment and flaggers bad. Scott’s lost his mojo.

Saturday Qual my engine was still missing a bit at WOT and high rpm. Enough such that it wouldn’t accelerate to RL in 4th. Given that I’d worked this issue hard since Mid-O, I was pretty disappointed. Jim Levie suggested that I replace the master relay, but I dismissed that as silly. The symptom only occured at WOT. If I backed off the throttle a little the engine ran fine. The master relay doesn’t know about WOT.

Silly or not, I replaced the master relay just before Qual. And the problem went away. Sigh . This makes no sense to me. So the next time I have a high rpm miss I’m going to rotate tires.

Saturday Qual I had a scare at turn 12. I came zooming thru 12 utterly committed, only to find a green VW about 30m beyond Control going dead slow and right on line. I had a helova time jugging variables such that I was able to tighten the turn up a little bit and avoid him. I was pissed that Control hadn’t thrown an excited yellow and a white.

I talked to the Control flaggers later and it came down to them moving slow.

After practice I checked my rtab eccentrics because one of them (right toe) had moved on me at Mid-O. To my dismay, it had moved again. I fought the bastard back into place and tightened the sob just as tight as I possibly could. The socket I was using deformed I put so much torque on it.

My qual time was incredibly bad, I was clumsy, imprecise, didn’t trust the car, couldn’t hear it whisper, and generally just sucked something awful. My times all weekend would be so bad that I was pretty embarrassed. I’ve run 1:46’s at RA. It shouldn’t now be a struggle to break 1:50.

After qual I checked my right toe and found that it had moved on me again. “A 1/4” of rear toe out is just what I need to restore my confidence", I thought. I found myself regretting going to the weld-on toe/camber kit.

Racing with GTS3-5 instead of Miatas and Thunder Roadsters turned out to be lots of fun. The GTS3-5 guys come up on you fast, but they are predicatable and their performance advantage helps get them by quickly and efficiently.

Into the turn 1 wall at 100mph. Saturday’s race. I spent Saturday’s race duking it out in the rear with anyone else who also sucked. Each time I was on the verge of putting a slap down on someone, I’d have miserable luck with traffic and it would cost me a half dozen car lengths. The E36’s could read my mind so I was able to get them by me just prior to a turn like we’d practiced together for years. But the Porsche 911’s couldn’t read my mind and they’d hesitate. It would take them a couple seconds to work their courage up and then go for the pass, but by then the window of opportunity for getting both of us thru the turn unimpeded was past and we’d go thru 2 wide and both be hosed.

With 2 laps to go in the race I was either dead last or close enough that it didn’t matter. Some 944 dumped his oil near the braking zone of one and spun in it. Then he managed to collect himself and drove off the track at the end of the straight away. He parked his car at the wall.

Scott McKay’s brother was taking video of turn 1 so caught the 944, and also caught the 3 other cars that almost lost it in the oil as traffic streamed thru over the next ~40seconds. Then I come flying thru 12 and note the standing yellow. Not waving-yellow-holy-shit-there’s-oil-in-a-120mph-braking-zone, but standing yellow. Not even a debris flag.

So I noted the yellow, looked for the incident and spotted the 944 way down the straightway against the wall as if he went straight off. Yellow now understood, I roared ahead.

A couple seconds later I was on the brakes setting up for the turn in to 1, and the car started getting out from under me. It was wiggling all over hell, not really slowing any, and to my horror, heading right for that 944. Mortified that I was going to slam into him I fought to get the car turned just a little bit right so my vector wouldn’t be right at the guy.

My right front caught some traction and suddenly I was flying at the right-side wall at what was most certainly >100mph. I was so f**cked. WHAM! I hit the right side wall hard as hell and then rebounding, spun thru turn exit and into the grass beyond.

I sat there and thought…“I can’t believe I just destroyed my car. 2 crashes in 2 races. That’s it for me this year because it’s going to easily take me that long to build another.” I figured that I’d hit that cement wall so damned hard the front 24" of my car have to be stove in.

I attempted to start the car and to my surprise it ran. I figured I’d try to get the car over to the right side of the track because that would let me back down into pit exit and with me behind cover they wouldn’t have to have a yellow out on account of me. But I by the time I found a gap in traffic the race was over.

Figuring I might get yelled at if I drove the wrong way down pit exit I headed for the infield access road at turn 5. The gate was closed but I waved down some spectators and they opened it for me. I was amazed that my oil pressure and coolant pressure lights seem to be telling me that they were intact.

Full of dread and disappointment, I headed back for the paddock.

As I drove back to my parking place I noticed that I didn’t see any facial expressions along the lines of “holy shit Ranger’s stove in the whole front of his car”. That seemed odd. Certainly if one of you stove in the front of your car I’d be sure to greet you with the appropriate grimace of horror and pity.

I pulled in next to Jon Stroup and Jim Levie and they’ll were all smiles, to the extent that they noticed my fking smashed car at all. I dragged myself out of my car, girded myself for the worst, and looked at my smashed front end. Which, wasn’t. Ok, the big heavy aluminum bumper was a little stove in at the shock, and that perfect rubber trim spray paint job I’d done last week was a clear casualty, but otherwise it was pretty good. Unfking believeable. I hit a cement wall at 100mph and I’m going to fix it with more trim spray paint.

The next day I attached the tow strap to my truck’s hitch and pulled the bumper out. It pretty much looks good as new. Well, unless you’re really into perfect trim.

My video crapped out on me in Saturday’s race. Pls post some clips that show what flags were at Control when turn 1 got oiled down. I think that they were just holding yellow. I talked to them later and they said that turn 1 did not tell them that there was oil at 1. But I’ve heard another report that says the Control was told and was holding yellow and debris.

IMO they should have been jumping up and down waving yellow and debris. Oil in a 120mph braking zone is serious shit. “Standing yellow”, in my book means “don’t pass and look for the incident”. “Waving yellow” to me means "there’s something bad, get your speed down. Likewise for a debris flag. If the flagger was genuinely anxious, I figure he’d wave the thing at me.

Maybe Control was wrong and turn 1 told them about the oil. Maybe I was wrong and they were waving Yellow and Debris. I’ll know when the videos go up.

Sunday’s Qual was more of the same. I was slow, but the racing was still fun. At the end of the race I exclaimed, “hey, I’ve just finished my first race in 2 months where I didn’t crash into anything”.


#2

I can’t remember the exact flags at start finish but I think all I got was white and debris. I went into the braking zone with Fred to my inside, and also lost control as soon as I got on the brakes. I was headed right for that 944 with all 4 locked up but not slowing down. I managed to stop looking at the 944 and diverted my attention up track. I followed the outside of the track up around the corner in a slide only to catch it right before I went off into the grass. I grabbed a gear and was able to continue having never left the racing surface. I had never before lost control of the car at that speed so it was a hairy moment for sure. Julio got video of it but of course it looks pretty tame compared to the crap your pants moment I was having in the car!!


#3

Good race(s) for the me.

A good father’s day: To hear that your kid(s) are happy.
Laura was so elated with her finish on Sunday that it made my day.The finish was accomplish with a push by DeVinney to bump her past Julio and and Fred in one of the later laps of the race.

Good race for me too on Sunday as the guys let me back in line when I pulled back in after a fast start.

RP


#4

[quote=“Patton” post=57814]A good father’s day: To hear that your kid(s) are happy.
Laura was so elated with her finish on Sunday that it made my day.The finish was accomplish with a push by DeVinney to bump her past Julio and and Fred in one of the later laps of the race.[/quote]I consider myself an honorary member of the Patton clan, so when I saw my teammate move left approaching Black Flag to pass Julio, I had to give her a little bump (or make it 3 wide into the braking zone). The bump seemed to be the better choice ('cuz lifting or braking never crossed my mind).

Things got a little hairy when the pace car picked up the overall leader and split the E30 pack.

I hated to see Walsh pull off on the pace lap on Sunday. We had a great, clean race on Saturday. The race came down to one mistake in Turn 5. I made the same one on Sunday but had better luck with traffic so it wasn’t as costly. I’m not sure, but I think David might support the rule change to spherical RTAB conversion.:blink:

Lako provided plenty of pressure both days but never tried anything remotely risky. Great driving and a pleasure to race with! Bummer about the snapped rocker on Sunday. The OPM guys mentioned that Lako was banging the limiter, which I try to avoid at all costs because it is so violent on the moving bits. I’m glad that is an easy fix.

RE: the oil on the front straight. I was next through after Ranger. When I saw the 944 I noticed that the race line looked dark so I moved over. I had only seen that one other time - starting just after Black Flag during a Porsche DE. It’s a subtle difference for sure. I’m not trying to make excuses for the workers, but it is not at all unusual for “sympathy spins” to happen. So other spins after the 944 are not an absolute indication of anything wrong with the surface.

How about that storm Saturday night? We lost the canopies at OPM but luckily only had a few scratches on the race cars and tow vehicles. I hope nobody was injured!


#5

Great fathers day weekend! Things are always good when you have a Crown Royal slip and slide and a kiddie pool.
The weekend started with a WalshLakoRacing first Enduro win. Walsh did a great job during the first half obtaining and maintaing the lead. I look over 7 seconds behind the new lead car following both of our pit stops and within a few laps passed and maintained a 6 second gap that started to drop while experiencing fuel starvation. The 2nd place car broke 2 wheel studs as the race was coming to a close and I sputtered home for the win as the tank was dry.
Saturday: I qualified 3rd and finished 2nd with an uneventful race other than Walsh sliding around in 5 leaving the door open for the pass. I was able to keep it tight with Devinney but saw no opportunity to risk my best finishing result to date.
Sunday: I qualified 2nd but lost my wingman on the pace lap as his Left rear wobbled down the back straight. Had a blast chasing Devinney and was hoping that when we approached lap traffic I would have a shot at a pass. Not to be. Broken rocker arm as a double yellow flew. At restart, Bratton and Mckay enjoyed blowing by me leaving me to finish 4th.
Congrats to Devinney on a weekend sprint race sweep. Smooth driving left minimal opportunity to cleanly pass. Now fix that brake light, I was sick of looking at it.


#6

[quote=“Laszlo” post=57841]Now fix that brake light, I was sick of looking at it.[/quote]Completely unintentional, I’m sure. I’d hate to distract someone on my bumper.:woohoo:


#7

This video thread is severly lacking in videos. I hope you guys are working on them, cause I really missed being there this weekend, and I would like to see some SpecE30 action.


#8

It was a great Father’s Day weekend. My Father and I took the long weekend road trip to the race this weekend. How does it get better then that? Now the car is another story. I had a better chance of driving a box of rocks to the front of the pack then my car. It was loose in the morning and it was ULTRA TIGHT in the afternoon. I can’t stress how tight it was. I tried messing with the sawy bars and pressures both days and the thing just wouldn’t rotate. It was tightest int T1,T7, and T10b. So yeah I was slow in the 3 most critical turn on the course. Lucky me huh? Sat. race the cool suit spring a leak and all the water leaked out before the race even started. NOT GOOD!! I enjoyed racing with Julio in the sat race until his WOT went out and he eventually fell off the pace. I think I qualed 11th and finished 11th. I just didn’t have enough to catch Laura and the GTS cars SCREWED me in 10a several times. Like Scott said some were hesitant and then that just killed you and some did exactly what you expected them to do and you were fine. After the race was not fun. Thanks Julio for literally picking me up and taking me in the rv to shake off the mild heat stroke. Can’t say enough about the kindness I was shown this weekend. Sunday was a rinse and repeat of sat. for me. Julio was back up on pawer after swaping the WOT and I finally got a decent 7 on the final lap and got a run on him. Fred went arounf Julio on the right and I went left. Tried to drive deep into 10a and out break him only to scrub off to much speed in the tight line and couldn’t pull off the pass. Fred then spun coimg out of 10b on the last lap. Bummer Fred!!! But I do have to say that eveyone had a good clean incedent free race on both days. Sans Ranger and the oil slick. Onto the flagger issue the Scott brought up. I have never in my life had to deal with oil on the track like that before. It was pretty scary for me. You go to hit the breaks for 1 and all for lock up instantly and are headed straight for the 944. All I could do was modualte everything and try and get the car turned up hill. There was a standing debris flar and start/finish but that was for the cones and front air dam to the inside and out of the racing line coming out of 12. I did’t see a flag of any type at T1. No yellow, no debris no nothing. I thought he just lost brakes and went straight off. I did notice he was outside his car and walking around looking at it and I remember thinking “what an idiot!! stay in the car dumbass.” Just my 2 cents for the weekend. I had a great time and enjoyed seeing everyone. Can’t wait for December and if I can talk the wife into it maybe August. If anyone is coming to O-fest let me know. I would love to find an Enduro crew to run F.Y.I. ALLEN


#9

I had a great time. Though I am getting a little tired of having the weather gods peek over the horizon, see that I have my tent up, and send a thunder storm my way. Before I could get everything covered up and/or secured and the top off the EZ-up the storm arrived. So I had to hang on to the tent frame to hold it down and got to watch the wind blow the rain in between the tent’s rain fly and the tent. Which quite throughly saturated my sleeping gear. Big thanks to D. Walsh for the loan of a furniture pad to use as a blanket. It got cold and my driving suite just wasn’t warm enough.

I had discovered, just before going to Hallet, that the left trailing arm was bent to the point that I couldn’t get any toe in. I set both sides to the same degree of toe out to get the thrust angle equal. As Chuck Baader would say, driving a car with rear toe out will scare god. I did get that arm replaced before RA, but then found that I could only get 2deg of camber on the left and 1deg of camber on the right. Not quite as scary loose as having toe out, but still plenty interesting. That plus year old tires kind of limited what I could do. But I still had a lot of fun and close racing with the guys in the back third of the pack.

The car is at a frame shop now having it’s trailing arms “adjusted”. With the adjustments bottomed out they will bend the arms to get 3.5deg of camber. Then I can back it off to the 3deg I want.


#10

Awesome weekend! Congrats to Devinney for a double win and to Lako for stepping up his game! Other than struggling with some funky brake issues and a loose setup on Saturday morning, my car ran pretty well this weekend. No points for me this weekend and I drove a fairly clean race on both days. Hopefully I’m off the poopy board soon! Anyway, here is a link to my Saturday video.

http://vimeo.com/25391057


#11

While it is not racing, here are a couple of vids from the "wanna"be racing section…

Actually ran my fastest lap the last session Sunday afternoon…Go figure ( less traffic helped allot )

As always, any comments or suggestions are more than welcome…

http://vimeo.com/25347036 Few hot laps last session Sunday

http://vimeo.com/25345931 Saturday Morning second session

:woohoo:


#12

[quote=“Jon62” post=57904]As always, any comments or suggestions are more than welcome…[/quote]Take comp school and come racing. You will be in the 49’s. :wink:

I watched the Sunday laps. The only significant place I saw was Turn 1. Carry a little more speed in, fight the urge to begin turning in too soon. Let the car run out 1-2 feet away from the exit curbing. The sooner you can open up your hands there the less speed you will scrub off. There will still be plenty of time to hustle the car back right to set up for T2.

You are about this > < close to benefiting from a shift to 5th on the front straight.


#13

Thanks for the feedback SteveD…

Not sure how much track time I will get this year due to work, so Comp license may have to wait for early next year…

:whistle:


#14

Sundays video: boring unless you like to look at Devinneys backside. (uh…Tower):dry: http://www.vimeo.com/25429956
Saturdays video: http://vimeo.com/25434988


#15

[quote=“Jon62” post=57904]While it is not racing, here are a couple of vids from the "wanna"be racing section…

Actually ran my fastest lap the last session Sunday afternoon…Go figure ( less traffic helped allot )

As always, any comments or suggestions are more than welcome…

http://vimeo.com/25347036 Few hot laps last session Sunday

http://vimeo.com/25345931 Saturday Morning second session

:woohoo:[/quote]

Watched the videos last night. When you get it right you should be full throttle from 10a all the way till you brake for turn 1. If I recall you were not full throttle through 12 yet. I know when I slapped on the RA1s earlier this year I finally felt enough grip to go full throttle through 12 and it resulted in needing a shift to 5th where before I was only using 4th. It was cool seeing Damagnez and you on track together in both videos.


#16

Bitsy and I had another lovely weekend together.

Yes there was LOTS of oil in the braking zone of 1, and the feeling of braking on a skating rink at 100+ was weird and detached: no real panic or desperation; I felt more like I was simply resigned to a cruel twist of fate, “oh well, I hope I don’t hit anything too hard, and I hope no one gets hurt,”… but my subconscious went back to my mountain bike lessons [DONT LOOK AT THE ROOT! DONT LOOK AT THE BIG ROCK OR THE STUMP! LOOK AT THE CLEAN PART OF THE TRAIL WHERE YOU WANT TO GO!] I think I gingerly eased over towards the center of the track or I got to the end of the oil patch, and then found enough grip to get the car moving towards the right, and I kept all 4 on track, or at least 2. My memory was a yellow before that strange first time there (this was very soon after the incident; corner workers probably didn’t know about the oil yet). When I came back around I thought that they should’ve seen us sliding around and they damn well better have a debris flag with the yellow, and they did. I braked early, off line and went through nice and slow.

On Saturday, the race for me was pretty chaotic… More W2W battling than ever, and unfortunately, I was more often the passee than the passer. Coming into 10a, Levie had krept up beside me, but I had the inside line so I thought I would keep the position. Nope. He late braked and slammed the door. A couple laps later, while trying to train myself to brake later, I had an incredible tank slapper through 10a and 10b (seemed like 4-5 times that I thought I was beyond the point of no return, the wheel was spinning in my hands, then my subconscious would save me again, then back the other way…), all slow motion, but in the end, I think kept it on track. If anyone got video on this, I‘d like to see it. I think Fred may have been behind me at the time.

Storm on Saturday was perfectly timed, but some folks didn’t get their EZ-ups down, so we ran around holding onto long metal poles in the middle of a lightning storm. After being drenched with this excitement, the bbq and beer was especially satisfying.

Sunday race was my first time starting from the outside line, and starts have not always gone so well for me, but I maintained position. Lots of pressure from behind early, but then I built a gap and seemed to be closing on that cute yellow car. The yellow flags destroyed the gap I built, but I got a good restart and kept it smooth (smooth for me at least). I took care of my tires, the action was less eventful than Saturday, and I had the best race of my brief rookie career (I just pulled the big orange R off the car tonight). I also made major technical strides by taking some hot tire pressures after quali (don’t laugh, but this is a big new technical setup strategy/advancement for me), and I think I balanced the car out a bit for the longer race runs.

Regarding the Blitz rungroup, I personally prefer when we run with the Miatas, and with any other class that has lap times similar to us. Some of those super fast Porsches and BMWs really seemed to come out of nowhere, and it kind of reminded me of the anxiety caused by the super fast beasts in time-trialing. In college I had a speech class and one of my persuasive speeches was on why the 55mph speed limit needed to be abolished. My research/readings from professional traffic engineers showed that the old saying, “speed kills” was not supported by the data. The data suggested that “variance kills.” While I appreciate that the all-German run group might have a certain appeal, and some might argue that these blitz classes might be more interested in keeping their expensive fenders straighter than miatas, I think our racing would be safer, and more interesting if the run groups were determined by using mean class lap times to determine who we race with.

And finally, my eternal thanks to the inventor of the coolsuit!


#17

I like running with the GTS cars much better than running with the Miatas. The GTS guys know they have a large power advantage and can pass in the straight sections.So they are less inclinded to try a risky pass in a corner.And in many cases our Spec E30’s are just as fast, if not faster, in the corners. So the GTS guys know that following us through a corner isn’t going to hurt them and they’ll get by on the following straight.


#18

This was my experience running with GTS in the “Autobahn” group at NASA-MA Hyperfest this past weekend. Was a lot of fun and close, clean racing.


#19

I enjoyed racing with GTS. It was like racing with BMWCCA and PBOC. It was good clean racing and I plus 1 on what Jim said. I had some traffis debo me in 10a but it is what it is. If I could read traffic a little better it might not have been so bad. I would much rather race with them then the Miata’s and WAY more then the Thunder Roadster!!!


#20

http://www.vimeo.com/25424463Sunday video: