girling carrier

#1

i’m getting a lot of taper on my front brakes (girling) due to slop between the caliper slide pin and the carrier. since the calipers are in good shape i don’t want to replace them, i just want to tighten up the carrier bushing. anyone know if that can be done easily, or where i can purchase remanned carriers only?

#2

you can get new pin and bushing kits from BMW…I did it once then lost track of which struts they were on…

Al

#3

Can you use the brass guide bushings to help eliminate some of the caliper squirm?

#4

Brass bushings are only available for ATE.

My understanding is that Girling calipers are just inherently less rigid than ATE. I think that came from MassiveLee over at e30tech. He sells aftermarket E30 brake kits and is about as knowledgeable about E30 brakes as anyone I’ve come accross.

#5

i delt with the same issue and my solution was a thorough cleaning of the pin and hole in the caliper and fill with some high temp grease, worked great for me. I’ve got good even wear on the pads now!

#6

I was under the impression that the girling calipers were better.

#7

ATE is preferred in general.

#8

as long as the bracket bushing is tight i prefer girlings, they’re certainly easier for pad changes (remove one 13mm bolt and swing up). but if the bushing is sloppy it’s not end user serviceable which is a downer.

#9

Jason - I like the girlings too. We have them on both of our cars with good pad wear. You can get the kit from Pelican

\http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=34-11-1-161-936-M9&catalog_description=Guide%20Bushing%20Repair%20Kit%20for%20Brake%20Caliper%20(Girling%20calipers%20only)%2C%20Front%20(2%20per%20car%2C%20sold%20individually)%2C%20E30%20318i%2Fis%2FiC%2C%20325e%2Fes%2C%20325i%2Fis%2FiC%2FiX

ED

#10

[quote=“edavidson” post=60763]Jason - I like the girlings too. We have them on both of our cars with good pad wear. You can get the kit from Pelican

\http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=34-11-1-161-936-M9&catalog_description=Guide%20Bushing%20Repair%20Kit%20for%20Brake%20Caliper%20(Girling%20calipers%20only)%2C%20Front%20(2%20per%20car%2C%20sold%20individually)%2C%20E30%20318i%2Fis%2FiC%2C%20325e%2Fes%2C%20325i%2Fis%2FiC%2FiX

ED[/quote]

how does that kit help with a worn bracket bushing?

#11

Girlings are easier to change pads. That way when you have uneven pad wear it is quicker to remove and throw away all that unused pad material!

#12

Do the pads wear more on the leading or trailing with girlings.

#13

Caliper and pad twist usually causes wear on the leading edge.

#14

Are ATE calipers hard to find? Seems like I only see Girlings.

#15

I think ATE are more common. My 87 had ATE my 89 Has Girling.

#16

is it easy to switch a car over to ATE from girling?

#17

Yes. It’s just like changing a rotor except that you have to undo the brake line too.

Related…Always torch brake line fasteners. It’s the only way to reliably get them off without chewing them up.

#18

Guys, currently run Girlings on the front with PFC 01s. Over the last 1.5 years of running PFCs and cleaning the guides I have not experienced “as much” un-even pad wear, (used to get a very un-even wear before thoroughly cleaning and lubing guides), still can see a little, but managable as I replace pads when the pad material is equal in thickness to the backing plate. Also currently on an '87 chassis with working ABS my brake feel and f-r bias is excellent.

Yet, with that said, I have always liked ATEs on my M3s. I have not seen the ATE on the front of an E30. Question: is the front ATE Caliper and pad larger than the rears on our cars? Second: Does anyone know what the part number of the PFC 01 pad for the front ATE is? Third, who sells the whole conversion kit?

Thanks,
Shoe

#19

The ATE and Girlings use the same pad. There is no conversion kit needed, just find someone selling the ATE calipers and they bolt up. I bought some from Al and some from eBay and then rebuilt them.

#20

I looked at my iX brakes while my brother was mounting my Blizzaks. It has Girlings also but I think they may be larger diameter. No sign of uneven pad wear and I haven’t touched them since I bought the car 3.5 years ago.