brake pads

#1

what is the latest thinking on brand and type of F and R brake pads??

#2

Hawk HT-10’s front and rear.

#3

I’ve been experimenting with brake pads for all of my racing career. Call it 10 weeks. Here’s what I’ve found.

Your choices aren’t all that many, especially in the rear.

HT10’s, like ScottMc said, are the common solution. You pretty much can’t go wrong with them.

There are some guys using Performance Friction PFC01’s. Also a high quality pad.

Ferodo pads are fine, as long as you are willing to change pads every track day. Twice a day if it’s a serious day of track sessions.

There are some other good race pads which can be found for the front only. Pagid and bhp come to mind.

#4

thank you both----the break through brake pad product, like the cure for cancer, may be some time coming–i was hoping it might have suddenly gotten here

#5

We’d all be running it and it would be a spec pad :stuck_out_tongue: .

Hawk HT-10s and Blues are both popular, and Hawk has a contingency program now. I’ve tried both, they both work. I like the cold feel of the Blues a bit better - they just bite. The HT-10s take a bit to warm up and then they’re great too. It’s kind of a matter of preference and braking style.

#6

blues up front black in the back. Bias mostly.

#7

I have some Hawk Blue Rears if someone wants them. Sale or trade.

#8

BHP’s front and rear. They bite quickly and I like them…but they eat rotors for sure compared to the Hawk HT-10’s…which are also a good pad.

Carter

#9

BHP makes a rear pad? The rep told me the other month that they didn’t. Have a link?

Carter, disregard pls. I found the rear BHP pad, but it’s a low torque pad. That’s not the bias I’m trying to experiment with.

#10

Cobalt Friction Technologies is another option. I’ve been running their pads on my DE car (Acura Integra) for years. First the Spec-VR and more recently the XR3. Their new ceramic compounds are great. They’re rotor friendly and last a long time. Until recently, they didn’t have a fitment for e30 BMWs. But they now list a couple compound options.

Front: XR2, XR3 - 325, All Models - E30 1989-1991 CRB.XXX.D493

Rear: XR3, XR4 - 325, All Models - E30 1989-1991 CRB.XXX.D279

I’m hoping to try a set of XR3’s on our SE30 later this season. Has anyone else run Cobalt’s pads?

#11

I figured out the other day that the high friction Hawk HT14 is available for our rear. Therefore HT10 front HT14 rear is another forward bias experiment that needs to be conducted.

So when you you’re thinking of making “that” move such that I must hellaciously brake in order for you to survive…ask yourself “I wonder how Scott’s brake pad experiments are going”.

#12

I’ve never heard of anyone wanting a higher friction pad in the rear of an e30.
cheers,
bruce

#13

leggwork wrote:

[quote]I’ve never heard of anyone wanting a higher friction pad in the rear of an e30.
cheers,
bruce[/quote]

Bruce,

Don’t let that make you feel bad.

Most people who meet Ranger/Scott have been know to utter these words:

“I’ve never met anyone who (fill in the blank)”

#14

Carbotech XP-10 would be a good choice except they are expensive. I was in one of my student’s E30 at Road Atlanta and the brakes felt great going into T10A. I asked him what he was running and I found out that he had XP-10s.

I use them on my miata and they have a good initial bite with nice modulation. They are also easy on the rotors.

I have been running Hawk HT-10s but just switched to PFC-01 because of the Hawk’s price increase. Both are good pads but not as nice as Carbotech XP-10s.

#15

csrow wrote:

[quote]

… the Hawk’s price increase. [/quote]
The prices haven’t changed at Factory 3 on Hawks, and we also carry the PFC01 pads.

#16

scottmc wrote:

[quote]leggwork wrote:

[quote]I’ve never heard of anyone wanting a higher friction pad in the rear of an e30.
cheers,
bruce[/quote]

Bruce,

Don’t let that make you feel bad.

Most people who meet Ranger/Scott have been know to utter these words:

“I’ve never met anyone who (fill in the blank)”[/quote]

I never met anyone who was so “Clever, Funny, and Good Looking.”

Also currently in Costa Rica. Crazy little monkey’s are in the trees 8’ over our head as I read a book outside our room. Wife just kicked my ass in ping pong 2 games to 5. Never knew she was on the Yale ping pong team.

Am plotting how I can get into Roebling’s turn 9 faster because I just know that there is traction at the apex I’m not using. And how I can go into 1 so fast that there isn’t a way in hell I can be dive bombed. Wife getting a little tired of hearing about it. Maybe the monkey’s above will listen. Wife just nods her head. Monkey’s might shit on my head.

#17

Ranger wrote:

Let’s keep this on topic and not turn it into a Roebling smack talk thread. :laugh:

#18

Ranger wrote:
[/quote]

Monkey’s might shit on my head.[/quote]

:evil:

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#19

csrow wrote:

[quote]Carbotech XP-10 would be a good choice except they are expensive. I was in one of my student’s E30 at Road Atlanta and the brakes felt great going into T10A. I asked him what he was running and I found out that he had XP-10s.

I use them on my miata and they have a good initial bite with nice modulation. They are also easy on the rotors.

I have been running Hawk HT-10s but just switched to PFC-01 because of the Hawk’s price increase. Both are good pads but not as nice as Carbotech XP-10s.[/quote]Last weekend at CMP the BHP pads that were on the burgundy pace E30 finally ended their run, and I put on a set of what was later to be determined as XP-10’s ( came out of the spares bin and were not sure if they were in the correct box…They were Orange and a person in the know said orange = XP10)Anyhow, they lasted about 7 sessions!! at the end of Sunday, they were toast!!!

They felt great and there was plenty of STOP in them, but IMO they didn’t last too long. CMP is really hard on brakes though.

#20

Technically I think that is an ape, but I could be wrong.