2006 vs 2005 rules comparison


#1

I happened upon the 2006 rules this morning and was waiting for Carter to announce their posting to this site, but I can’t wait! The rules have the new parts highlighted but I was curious what might have been removed so I created the comparison table in the attached pdf file.

cheers,
bruce [file name=2006SpecE30ComparedTo2005.pdf size=49967]http://spece30.com/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/files/2006SpecE30ComparedTo2005.pdf[/file]

Post edited by: leggwork, at: 2006/01/16 23:19


#2

(edited original post with properly formatted attachment name)

Post edited by: leggwork, at: 2006/01/16 23:10


#3

Nice comparison job !
I just glanced over the rule modifications, and it sounds that we can remove interior ducts for ventilation so that they don’t interfere with cage cross bar (for us who already have it in that location).
Now I am no trying to be pain Carter, but does, under new rules, that means that we can place extra set of gauges in the central vent area or not?

Igor


#4

Fantastic. Doors can be gutted to allow for any type of side impact bars instead of just "NASCAR-like" disasters.


#5

Bruce - great job man!

And Carter - I must say that for the most part the changes seem very well thought out & logical. Many unneeded words were dropped, which is a good thing. Well done!

I still don’t get the bumper thing.


#6

A big thank you goes out to Carter and the team for the new rules for 2006! Great job and clarifying and cleaning up the clutter.

Also thanks to leggwork for putting up the comparison chart, much easier to decipher the differences.

:slight_smile:


#7

I agree – I’m amazed at how a few small changes have made the rules so much clearer. Thanks Carter and Mike (and Bruce)…

I am confused on one point, though – are the Bimmerworld decals required, like the Toyo stickers? I was under the impression that they were.


#8

Igor wrote:

[quote]
Now I am no trying to be pain Carter, but does, under new rules, that means that we can place extra set of gauges in the central vent area or not?

Igor[/quote]

Igor:

Questions are never a pain…well usually they aren’t. :wink:

Yes, you can mount gauges in the center vent.

Carter


#9

sharkd wrote:

[quote]I agree – I’m amazed at how a few small changes have made the rules so much clearer. Thanks Carter and Mike (and Bruce)…

I am confused on one point, though – are the Bimmerworld decals required, like the Toyo stickers? I was under the impression that they were.[/quote]

Different regions will have different contingency programs. Each Spec E30 Regional Director will make sure the drivers are aware of that region’s programs.

Carter


#10

155MPH wrote:

[quote]A big thank you goes out to Carter and the team for the new rules for 2006! Great job and clarifying and cleaning up the clutter.

Also thanks to leggwork for putting up the comparison chart, much easier to decipher the differences.

:)[/quote]

Interestingly, I have heard several veteran drivers comment on how we should somehow restrict comments from those building cars. "Tell them to build their car according to the Rules and race for a year. Then, they can start making comments." was mentioned to me recently.

And it is true that most "I don’t understand/like/agree with this rule." comments disappear once a driver gets his license and completes a couple of race weekends.

The Rules are set for 2006. If you have a legitimate question about the interpretation of a specific rule, I’ll try to help. If you just want to voice your opinion on how you think something should have been done differently, I probably will not take the time to respond.

This coming season looks great, in terms of the number of cars expected to race. The Mid Atlantic regions will have about 20 cars (or more) racing by mid season and the Southeast and California Regions are growing for sure. Later, I’ll gather everyone’s basic information so we can keep up with what is going on across the country.

Now let’s go racing.

Carter


#11

Carter wrote:

[quote]155MPH wrote:

[quote]A big thank you goes out to Carter and the team for the new rules for 2006! Great job and clarifying and cleaning up the clutter.

Also thanks to leggwork for putting up the comparison chart, much easier to decipher the differences.

:)[/quote]

Interestingly, I have heard several veteran drivers comment on how we should somehow restrict comments from those building cars. "Tell them to build their car according to the Rules and race for a year. Then, they can start making comments." was mentioned to me recently.

Carter[/quote]

I don’t know if this was directed at me or not, but I disagree with this suggestion entirely. You’re talking about shutting out the people who will help to build the series for the future just because we are currently prepping a car or have not yet raced. Does that make our questions or comments less valid or purposeful?

I don’t see how that sort of logic will help anyone involved.

JP


#12

JP:

My comments were not directed at you or any specific person. If they were, I would have directed them to you or that person.

I don’t endorse the idea of restricting comments from non racers but it is true that several veteran drivers have brought this up.

It sounds as if they have some frustrations with the non racers simply because the same questions get asked over and over. As the Spec E30 Administrator, I understand that in reality, this is going to happend and that I have to deal with it. That’s why I get the big salary.
:stuck_out_tongue:

To help ease some of the concerns of the non drivers, and in an attempt to insulate the veterans from what is a somewhat legitimate frustration, I am planning to build a FAQ section for all the newcomers. I’ll ask Mike to post it on the front page of the site.

Yes, we will lose a few drivers now-and-then and we look to new drivers to help build Spec E30. We hope you will be one of those drivers.

Carter


#13

[quote]Now let’s go racing.

Carter[/quote]

I like that part, i can’t wait!

Post edited by: MikeD, at: 2006/01/18 23:02


#14

One more comment.

Spec E30 seems to attract guys who love to race. Other club racing series attract guys who love to tinker with, and tweak their cars.

These really are simple racecars and it’s easy, especially when a driver comes from a more traditional club series that allows drivers to spend money testing different spring combinations, for example, to get caught-up in the build process.

My advice (and I’m sure several veterans would agree) is to keep it as simple as possible. The bumper rule is a part of this philosophy.

Keeping it simple will help make the car as reliable as possible, which makes race weekends much more fun.

After 10 years of racing Improved Touring, and seeing overly-stressed cars blowing up every weekend, I wanted to build a driver’s series with simple, tough, and reliable racecars. Based on the way our drivers love to race, and on how the spectators have loved watching our races, I’d say this is working well.

Carter


#15

Great point Carter,
As one of the "veteran" Spec E30 racers, let me offer these thoughts:

I agree that having the newer style bumpers offers a slight performance advantage. That’s some 30-40 pounds located at the extremities of the car that could be more efficiently placed closer to your CG. I’d agree that this is a fair amount when messing with weight distribution/balance.

Now, does it really make a difference in Spec E30 racing? No.

If I were building the ultimate time trial car, and wanted that one perfect lap, then I’d go for the newer bumpers. But a newer style bumper isn’t going to do squat for you when Chris Cobetto is 2 inches from your fender in the middle of the turn, making you as un-comfortable as heck. Getting wheel to wheel is the great equalizer here - and the measuring of thousandths gets zeroed out.

If anything, Carter’s stonewall stance on bumpers is going to save you a few bucks, and the headache of swapping over the bumper.

Get the car built per the rules as they stand, and come out racing. I promise that you’ll never look back!

-Vic
SO #325, and "veteran" Spec E30’er


#16

Old style bumpers are great as they allow you to push people like Vic out of the way without body damage. Bump drafting is also improved. Wow, I can’t believe I said that… Ouch that could be basis for an internet 13/13. Keep your hands away from the keyboard. You are on probation for the next 90 days. Regards, Robert Patton