The fast way around Sebring - my instructional


I’m hoping to help some of you find the fast way around Sebring in a Spec E30. The line below also generally works for a Miata or other rear-drive small bore car, although the shift points will be different.

Any record lap in any car requires ALL (not some) of the following:

Lots of knowledge of the track
Lots of time in the car
Fresh tires
Confidence in the car
Balls (or steel ovaries)
Good weather

As Clint Eastwood said, “A man has got to know his limitations”. If you’re a midpack driver, that’s fine, just know and understand it and don’t try to set a track record. Also, make sure you are working up to fast times, don’t try to find three seconds in one lap, or the helicopter will come for you. I’m sure some will differ with my approach, and I’m equally as sure that some other lines may work and also be fast. All I know for sure is that the lines below work for my driving style and the car I was in.

I’ve never been accused of being overly smooth in any race car, and I truly believe the whole “smooth is fast” bit is crap. Every time I try to be smooth, I see a 2:42 come up on the timer. When I’m working the pedals, wheel, and gearshift hard, I see a 2:38 come up. None of the E30’s I’ve ever driven could trail brake effectively; they just plowed like a farm tractor, so I’ve given up on trying it. If yours does, you might want to experiment with it in turn 17 and 1.

A fast lap at Sebring, like any other track, starts with the entry of the turn before the start finish. At Sebring, that means Turn 17, so I will start there:

My entry and line through 17 is different from a lot of people, and turn 17 is probably the scariest turn and best place to make up time. I set up about midtrack and drive it in deep, still at midtrack, turning in on the gentle right while full throttle in 5th gear. I get hard on the brakes for just a second, drop the car into 3rd gear (for a sprint race, I run the turn in 4th in an enduro) and let the car drift out a few more feet towards the outside wall, then make one hard, early move back right, aiming the car just past the inside wall. Do not over slow the car, the straight is really long, and you want to carry as much momentum as you can. As soon as you make the hard move back right, you should be full throttle. I take this line in part because I think it is fast, and in part because there is a huge bump in the track around midturn, and I want the car as straight as possible when I hit it, not turning. You won’t be straight no matter what you do, so learn where the bump is and prepare to make a correction if needed when you hit it. If you do all of this right, you will come flying under the bridge, and you will need every bit of track out. Track out has tires against a concrete wall, I usually wind up a foot or two from those tires, but then the track narrows and you have to get further right, so be ready for all of that. Done correctly, you will need to make the 3-4 upshift just before the end of the turn, but certainly while you are still turning. If you find that you get the whole turn done and are going straight and then you shift, you haven’t gotten all you can from the turn.

You will ride down the front straight in 4th… I’ve never even gotten close to shifting into 5th on the front straight. Get the car all the way to the right. I tap the brakes about 200 feet from the end of the pit wall (again, don’t over slow the car, the run down to turn 3 is still long), take a quick look at the corner worker (turn 1 is blind), and then make a single, hard move left through turn one. You should be at full throttle at the turn in point. Look for an orange cone jammed up in the fence, that is the apex cone, and you want the car about a foot off of the inside concrete wall at that cone. As the turn opens up, unwind the wheel, and be ready for another nasty Sebring bump that will move you over about half a car width. If you went in too early, or didn’t allow for this bump, it will move you off track to the right. Don’t panic, there is plenty of room out there in the grass, you will be going basically straight in the grass, and the reentry is smooth. I’ve done this move, too, at full throttle. If you get nervous right before the grass and hit the brakes or yank the wheel, or both, you can hit the inside wall.

Turn 2 isn’t a turn at all really. Full throttle. Keep the car to the right.

Turns 3-4-5 are a left right left sequence that you do in 3rd gear. It is preferable that you do all three turns correctly. If you just can’t manage that, make really sure you get turn 5 correct since the straight after it is long.

I turn into 3 in 3rd gear at what I believe is a normal (not early or late) point, and go full throttle until most of the way through turn 4. An early entry into 3 will insure that you have to get on the brakes midturn and fail the entire 3-4-5 sequence. Try to get it correct. If not, err on the side of going into turn 3 late. I want the car about 3 feet away from the right edge of the pavement at turn 3 track out, which is really short. Turn 4 is a short right with a pretty good curb on the inside. I try to just miss that curb and wind up setting up for the lefthand turn 5 at midtrack. I do not try to muscle the car all the way to the right for the setup for 5. If you don’t mind resetting the alignment on the car every weekend (I mind so I don’t do this), blast the curb and keep the car all the way to the right. Please note that if you go all the way to the right here during a race, expect 1-2 cars to sneak under you for the apex. This is not something you do in traffic. In traffic, always follow my mid-track setup.

As soon as you turn left for 5, go full throttle again. There is a nice on camber curb at the exit of 5 if you overdrove the turn a bit, it will save you. I’m told by some that the drop-off over that curb is nasty enough to hit the oil pan if you get it wrong, so try not to do that.

Turn 6 is a full throttle gentle right hander. Keep the car all the way to the right through turn 6 so you take the short way around. I’m always amazed by people that put the car to the left way too early so they can take the long way around.

Turn 7 is a hard, slow right hander. Set up all the way to the left. I go for the brakes hard at the 200 foot cone, and I take the turn in 3rd gear. If you have old tires, you will need 2nd gear. If you just aren’t getting the turn right, you will need 2nd gear. Done perfectly, the car will come out of the turn at around 4200 rpm in 3rd. Look to your left before you turn in – when the grass to the left of the pavement ends, a semi flat curb appears. When most of the braking is done (you can’t hard brake on the curb, but you can finish off the braking), get your two left tires 3 feet onto that curb, then make one hard move towards the inside curb while going full throttle at turn in. You will be full throttle from turn 7-10. NOTE: The inside curb of 7 was just redone, and it really is like a parking curb. If you hit this curb, you WILL wreck something on the car. You can’t hit it. You’re going to run out of track at track out, that’s just how that goes, so muscle the car back right (still at full throttle) just a bit, straighten the wheel, run over the left rumble strips with the left tires, while still going straight, run over the next set of rumble strips on the right with the right tires. Sometime around here you need to shift into 4th. Keep the car to the right for the sweeping right hander, then cross over and stay to the left for the sweeping left hander. Keep the car all the way left for the setup for turn 10, a right hander.

I brake hard for turn 10 at about the 150 foot mark and drop to 3rd gear. Turn 10 is easier than people make it. Turn in at a normal point, again at full throttle (you will be full throttle until you brake for 13), and make sure you need all of your track out. Now, turn 11 is a left hander that starts just about where the track out for 10 ends, but 11 is an increasing radius and increasing width turn so it is relatively safe. Turn left so you clip the left tires on the left inside curb at full throttle, and keep the wheel set in that place through 11. Set the wheel once and leave it there. Most of the way through 11 you will need to up shift into 4th, likely with the wheel still slightly turned left. Turn 12 is useless, once you get through 11, set the car straight, around midtrack, and head for the entry of 13, which you will be coming into at an angle at this time. The apex of 12, and I will use that term really loosely, should be 10 feet to your right. Get the car straight for the turn in to 13.

I brake hard and late coming into 13, and drop to 3rd gear. Turn 13 is on camber and is very important, since a long full throttle section follows. Turn in normal (not early or late) and go full throttle, again. A straight follows, you will shift to 4th somewhere on the straight and then bishops bend (some call it turn 14), a big sweeping left hander. All of this is done at full throttle. Get into bishops bend close to the inside rumble strips, let the car float out to midtrack, and then bring it back for the second half of the left hander, clipping the inside left rumble strips. The goal here is to get the car all the way to the left after bishops bend, to set up for the right left right combination that is turns 15-16. There are three distinct turns to turns 15 and 16. Just like the 3-4-5 sequence, try to get all of them right, but if you can’t manage that, make super sure you get 16 right.

I brake hard for the right hander into 15, and drop the car to 3rd gear. I then go full throttle and take an early apex into 15, which takes the car to the far left at track out. About that time, the turn immediately turns back left. Full throttle, yank it left and run over the curb. I try to get the left tires all the way over the curb, but you will be fighting the car to do this. Do whatever you can to get the car as far left as you can, because you want a big setup for the right handed 16, which leads onto the massively long backstretch.

You should be coming through the right left part of 15 at full throttle in third gear. I literally just tap the brakes coming into the right hander of 16, then yank the car right in one move and go full throttle. Turn into 16 a bit early, try to clip the apex curb with the right tires, and then use every inch of the track at track out, including the generous (4 feet wide) rumble strips. If you go in too early and/or too fast and can’t make the turn, don’t freak out, read my note from turn 1 and do it again. Take the car offroad to driver’s left, keep it there for a second, and then slowly transition back on track. It is relatively smooth and the re-entry, as long as you bring it back on 200+ feet down track, is smooth. If you hit the brakes and/or yank the wheel right when you realize you screwed it up, you will hit the inside wall. Many many many cars eat the wall here. If you do this right, you will up shift into 4th just as you straighten the wheel. Also, if you do this right, you will need to shift into 5th gear nearing the end of the straight. If you don’t do this right, forget 5th, you will run the back straight in 4th.

When you get to 17, repeat what I said above.

With a lot of practice, you can be fast at Sebring. It is a very rough track, but fun when you learn it. Enjoy. I hope this helps.


Thanks again. Will give some of this a shot next year.


Scott, thanks for posting your thoughts on the fast way around Sebring. Because it was so long, I didn’t read it… My attention span this late in my deployment is very limited; perhaps you could post a summary. I’m leaving Afghanistan heading back to Fort Stewart on Sunday. I’ll be at Sebring (for the first time) in October and fully intend to smack you down!


Listen up jarhead: You bring that cheater car with your 170hp locomotive engine to Sebring so I can show you the fast way around this place.

Summary of my message: Get on the brakes late and the gas early, and drive with balls.


That’s all…nothing else about driving you need to know…


[quote=“BigKeyserSoze” post=73029]Listen up jarhead: You bring that cheater car with your 170hp locomotive engine to Sebring so I can show you the fast way around this place.

Summary of my message: Get on the brakes late and the gas early, and drive with balls.[/quote]

I’ll let you show me around for a lap or two, but don’t “Gags” me when I pass you!


Wow. “gags” you. Strong. I’ve already posted my thoughts on that, but if you missed them, I’ll restate. Should you and I happen to be going down a straight or a turn that doesn’t require brakes, I’d highly suggest you keep the wheel straight and not try to drift over on me to see how far I’ll move, because you might be surprised about how not far I move before we hit. Plus, I’ll be in a rental! I don’t have to fix it!