So??? How was the first event of 2006?????

#22

I’m not sure why all the hurt feelings over the Enduro results…We all knew the rules going into it. Last year at CMP when I finished 2nd…I didn’t complain when post race I came in 4 lbs underweight. In fact, I actually let race officials know to DQ my results out of a sense of sportsmanship and fairness to the other competitors.

http://www.nasaracing.net/VIR_Feb_06/results/sun_enduro/R%20Enduro_Sunday.html

No prize money, no big $$ contracts, just the fun. Squabbling over results is poor form no matter how articulate the argument.

#23

Vic, thanks for the update. I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what…it musta been that DP Motorworks wrenchin’ that made your car so fast. After all, that’s the only thing that changed from last year’s lap times in the 2.50s, right? Have fun and great race… Regards, Robert

#24

Hi Brain, I thought you were co-driving with DP, but there is a listing for a car under his name in the results too. Who drove what and how was your race? Regards, Robert

#25

Boy, if I had the DP motorworks guys working on my car fulltime, I’d be winning World Challenge in a Spec E30!!!

I tell you what!

-Vic
SO #325

#26

robert,

Yea it got a bit confusing…Dave and I drove my car #105 and Dave also Co-drove his car #67 with a client (Dave Cullpepper).

the 67 car was driven for exposure and not designed to be competative

the 105 car was not quite as fast as the front runners, but some good pitstops and carefull weight management kept us fairly close.

take care
brain

#27

[quote]Boy, if I had the DP motorworks guys working on my car fulltime, I’d be winning World Challenge in a Spec E30!!!

I tell you what!
[/quote]

Be glad you didn’t get a bill…

#28

brain wrote:

[quote][quote]Boy, if I had the DP motorworks guys working on my car fulltime, I’d be winning World Challenge in a Spec E30!!!

I tell you what!
[/quote]

Be glad you didn’t get a bill…[/quote]
W00t on the bill…
I charge more for working on cars than I charge for Computers…

#29

Patton wrote:

Didn’t you read about Brain in the news? He’s a member of Like-Minded Scientists For Cloning Advancement. :smiley:

#30

I am confused, is there a different weight requirement for the endurance events than our usual mark of 2750?

Jon

#31

That’s funny… :cheer:

#32

[quote]I am confused, is there a different weight requirement for the endurance events than our usual mark of 2750?

Jon [/quote]

The answer is Yes. In the enduro supplement to the rules state that competitors must subtract 180 lbs from class weight (2750) and weigh the car without a driver…thus the 2570 lbs max wt. at the end of the enduro for E30’s.

Post edited by: brain, at: 2006/02/23 15:14

#33

brain wrote:

[quote][quote]I am confused, is there a different weight requirement for the endurance events than our usual mark of 2750?

Jon [/quote]

The answer is Yes. In the enduro supplement to the rules state that competitors must subtract 180 lbs from class weight (2750) and weigh the car without a driver…thus the 2570 lbs max wt. at the end of the enduro for E30’s.[/quote]

Thank you for the info. I am guessing that you mean "min weight" not max for the 2570, but I get it.

Thanks for the clarification.
Jon

#34

How’d they come up with 180#? Mike and I don’t weight that together!
Ed

#35

Right…but average James Clay’s weight (it’s all height and bulk, not fat) and your’s and Mike’s together, and it’s probably close to 180 lbs. :slight_smile:

And regarding the DQ’s for being underweight, we all knew what the minimum was (several of us discussed it on Friday, including those affected) and our team calculated the weight and fuel, and ran our race accordingly. We were 11 lbs. over minimum at impound.

No doubt, Vic and James drove very well on the track but I’m sure they are not surprised by the results. No one gets any pleasure out of seeing a "DQ" by a competitor’s name but being properly prepared and racing by the published rules, is part of NASA endurance racing.

Carter

#36

Good point. So, 2 extra gallons of fuel in the tank can make a big difference!
Ed

#37

Wanted to chime in here. What a fun enduro on Sunday! Tanks to Vic for letting me drive his car. I am going to take another crack at that track record in a non-enduro environment when we can get the car about 20 pounds lighter yet! Oddly enough, it seems to handle best with close to a full tank of fuel with more rear weight.

The competition was great. There were no powerhouse cars and the first stint with Vic in the car with 4 others so tightly around is what spec racing is all about!

#38

ok Vic, what are your corner weights with a full tank and James in the driver’s seat … inquiring minds need to know!

#39

JamesClay wrote:

[quote]Wanted to chime in here. What a fun enduro on Sunday! Tanks to Vic for letting me drive his car. I am going to take another crack at that track record in a non-enduro environment when we can get the car about 20 pounds lighter yet! Oddly enough, it seems to handle best with close to a full tank of fuel with more rear weight.

The competition was great. There were no powerhouse cars and the first stint with Vic in the car with 4 others so tightly around is what spec racing is all about![/quote]

James:

It’s good to see you here.

Yes, with times like…

Matt - 2:20:08
Vic - 2:20:26
Carter - 2:20:40
Carlton - 2:20:47
Chris - 2:20:95

you can say that it’s good racing. And all Spec E30 cars finished the long 3.5-hour race.

Of course, your 2:19:05 is now the target. We have a way to go to get there but we’ll keep trying! :wink:

Carter

#40

What’s a corner weights?

#41

Vic,

It’s when you weight each corner of the car - by using scales under each wheel. Check out Pegasus auto racing supplies, they have digital and manual scales. We have the RuggleScales (nondigital) setup. You can adjust by ballast or spring rates to change corner weights - limited options in spece30 though, due to the designated springs.

Ed