Road Atlata Race Results


#61

Gents,

I’ll check my diff this weekend when time is available. I’m also working on adding the required weight. The car WILL be completely legal by RA in August. My appologies for running somewhat of a cheater car last weekend, but my main goal for the event was to get my comp license and then seat time. The Fish Tank was originally prepared for BMW club racing where the rules are a bit more open.


#62

No worries… Just run twice the ballast needed to make the car legal for the next weekend and we’ll forgive this past transgression.


#63

That would be illegal too… I think the rules state 125lb max ballast.


#64

FishMan wrote:

So NOW you read the rules. :laugh: :laugh:

Having been through this (hence my car number) I can tell you I appreciate a straighforward apology. Congrats on getting through comp school and keeping it clean on track.

All you have to do is ask and there will be plenty of us happy to go over your car with you and make sure it is compliant. :wink: :woohoo:

PS - It is not illegal to run a full tank in all sessions. Maybe that’ll satisfy Levie.

PPS - Levie - Do you still have that spare 3.73 that I traded my 4.10 LSD for? I might have a buyer. :blink:


#65

I read the rules before, just ran out of time to make all the required fixes. The car was really, really illegal when I received it. I did the math too and it does look like 4:10 gears. I want to do the wheel count check just to make sure… My car was 2692ish with a full tank of gas. Jim, how 'bout those gears?


#66

this is interesting so I am thinking with you here as an exercise for myself. BTW 2692 is not qualified as “ish” 2700 might be qualified as “ish” :stuck_out_tongue:

58lbs light?
1 gallon of gasoline equals 5.8 to 6.5 lbs dependent on ambient temp.
I am pretty sure the fuel tank is 14.5 Gal (but I think it’s 16 Gal capacity system (pump, lines etc.) - might be wrong - never bothered to get into this as a detail and the 16 number might be an alternative tank size - bah can’t remember)…

At 72 degrees Gas is ~6.x lbs/Gal let’s use 6…
That’s 87lbs in the tank

2690- (round down)
90 (round up for sanity)
= 2603lbs with you and no fuel…

you need to add 2750 minus 2600 (keep those number pessimistic) 150lbs…

155lbs can be achieved pretty easy…

options…
125lbs of passenger weight
Heavy Battery and spare tire
large fire bottle (best with fire system)
Cool suit system (if you can afford one).


#67

kgobey wrote:

[quote]Heavy Battery and spare tire
[/quote]
The rules do not permit a heavy battery. 1.3 requires the car to be as it came from the factory, so an OEM replacement is the only option.

The spare wheel and tire can be anything designed to fit an E30 but the rules specify ONLY commercial wheel weights and a max 50 lb wheel and tire weight.


#68

Already sportin’ the large fire bottle, but took out the spare tire for cool shirt. I’m planning to add the spare tire and 100 or so lbs of plate steel. I know a guy that owns a steel fab shop that stamp whatever shape and size I need. Starting with a full tank of gas each race, I should be able to go fourty minutes and still come in over 2750.


#69

FishMan wrote:

Before you fab anything up, try to get a photo of Levie’s ballast setup. It is clever and well executed. Legally puts the ballast right where you want it IMHO.


#70

Levie’s legal ballast: legal 'till some rules goober sees it (and I’m not talking about Chuck Taylor).

Love Levie’s system.

RP

Now, how 'bout some more race reports…
I’m thinking my green/white checkered flag lead that I had on DeVinney for third in Sunday’s race evaporated with some less-that-stellar straightaway talent from the #8 car I was driving. It’s weak…Time to go to the dyno to see how bad it really is.

Saturday was great fun with 30+ minutes of green flag racing. Laura and I passed one another 2 or three times.Bump drafting to help her and Walsh get past people…just great fun.


#71

There are OEM replacement batteries that are “more equal” than others… :stuck_out_tongue:


#72

I think me not shifting into 5th was a combination of 2 things. 1. I’m slow from having a motor that is slowly eating itself and 640 treadwear tires. 2. My stock size tires are 24.1 inches in diameter vs 23.1 for the RA1s, which is a 4.3% ratio difference.

This also means that my speedometer is further off than I imagined and will be even worse when I get the spec tires.

Ranger did you mean corner 7?


#73

Steve D wrote:

[quote]FishMan wrote:

So NOW you read the rules. :laugh: :laugh:

Having been through this (hence my car number) I can tell you I appreciate a straighforward apology. Congrats on getting through comp school and keeping it clean on track.

All you have to do is ask and there will be plenty of us happy to go over your car with you and make sure it is compliant. :wink: :woohoo:

PS - It is not illegal to run a full tank in all sessions. Maybe that’ll satisfy Levie.

PPS - Levie - Do you still have that spare 3.73 that I traded my 4.10 LSD for? I might have a buyer. :blink:[/quote]
I didn’t put a smiley on it, but it was meant as a joke. I thought that would be obvious…

Yes, I have the diff. If I’d thought about it I’d have brung it to RA. Are you going to be at Charlotte? Even if you aren’t I could drop it off on my way through Atlanta.


#74

turbo329is wrote:

[quote]
Ranger did you mean corner 7?[/quote]
I think you mentioned both RA and Roebling, so I did too. Turn 9 is a reference to Roebling.

Speaking of diff’s, I just scored a spare that breaks at 50ftlbs. I think I’ll put that on next winter when I pull my subframe off.

Re. The battery needs to be OEM. I’m as anal about following rules as the next guy, but I marched into my local autoparts store the other day and bought a battery with a tape measure. I didn’t ask them if it was an OEM battery, I just wanted one about the same size (which is big) as the old one.


#75

David, regarding your crash footage, I was semi lost. You had the car fully rotated and looped but were not at the edge of the track at track-out. I fault the DE programs for this. They are so anti-teaching driving offroad that when you need it most, the natural instinct is to yank on the wheel to keep the car on the pavement as opposed to just admitting it is screwed up and driving it 4 wheels off. That said, I was glad you were OK.

Randy Pobst drove a shift with me last year at the 25 Hours of Thunderhill. Not that we crashed, but he told me that pros hit the outside of a wall, and amateurs hit the inside of a wall. Interesting comment.


#76

BigKeyserSoze wrote:

Don’t worry… Walsh isn’t afraid to go 4 into the dirt. You obviously missed his move around that roadblock Civic (or was it that Rabbit) at the bottom of the esses. Move of the weekend. Where’s the video???


#77

Your both right. My DE experience was through PCA where the number one rule was " If you see your not going to make it, drive straight off." Because most of the time you are better off that way than to try to horse it back on track.

In this case I was not worried about driving off track but rather I guess I thought I was a drifter for a second there. My goal was not to loose any time spinning and was trying to drive out of it.
With my car I can go through there almost any way I want to. Even though Lakos car is suppose to be set up exactly the same, something just didnt stick. (Probably the old tires we were running)

Craig, It was the Rabbit and the Civic on 2 different occasions. Both quick decisions to avoid hitting them. I hesitated to post the video for fear someone would start crying that I was being to agressive. Maybe I should post it anyway, one to show that grip is no problem in the dirt if you need it (SO LONG AS ITS NOT WET) , and two to give anyone who needs something to bitch about something to do.

The other hesitation is that after watching the footage of the race, it was full of costly momentum mistakes and I do some weird crap while driving. I must have been putting on hand sanitizer or picking my nose for at least have the race.


#78

Why would someone cry about being to aggressive? I am to aggressive in autox, hpde1 and ice racing. The ice racing is the only one where it really hurts me. That and when I was a junior counselor at summer camp. They had a little talk with me about slide tackling 8 year olds.


#79

turbo329is wrote:

The word “aggressive” covers lots of territory. When the day comes that your car is put into a wall, how are you going to react when the driver that made the bonehead move shrugs his shoulders and just says “I was just being aggressive”?

There’s no problem with “aggressive” as long as there’s not bent sheetmetal in the aftermath.