Ranger's motorswap thread


#121

Ranger wrote:

Which one? :laugh:


#122

IndyJim wrote:

Absolutely, it is best to confess and use the “aw shucks I didn’t know” excuse when you are caught red handed cheating.

Come on and race with us tomorrow cheater. :wink:


#123

Scott,

If you have time (and I know you are crashing for the weekend and don’t), you might put some clay on top of the piston, bolt down the head - and check the real clearance with the gasket compressed. I haven’t read your entire thread, but if this is a nice new engine, I’d hate to see you trash it on weekend #1. Just remember that your rods “grow” at high RPM - so what may be OK now, may NOT be OK at 6500/7000 RPM…

Or, if you’re Steve, the 4.10 Diff cheater, 8000 RPM - I heard his ECU was chipped…

And don’t feel bad - Steve and the Gasman hijacked my Ebay Diff thread too - you guys are Brutal - funny, but Brutal…

Jim


#124

Gasman wrote:

[quote]…when you are caught red handed cheating.

Come on and race with us tomorrow cheater. ;)[/quote]

My car was illegal.

Let me see if I have your position fairly stated: you think I intentionally raced with a 4.10 for four full days at Mid-Ohio (arguably the only place our class EVER sees REAL tech), posted video on the internet from that, then raced at Road Atlanta, and posted video from that AND knew I was cheating and didn’t think I would get caught?

You clearly don’t have a very high opinion of my character or intelligence.

It’s strange. When IndyJim does his grouchy, everybody-else-is-cheating schtick, it is oddly endearing. When you do it, I get the feeling you really are calling me a cheater.

Illegal at Mid-O and RA? Yes. Cheater? No.

Done with the subject.

Steve D.

PS - When you posted as a response to me in the December post-race thread the words “apology accepted,” what did that mean?


#125

Steve, the winkey thing :wink: has meaning. Take a freakin joke.

edit: seriously, come race with us tomorrow. You threw down the gauntlet for me to come to a sprint race so you could beat me. Come on.


#126

Gasman wrote:

Ohhhh. See, that’s what threw me off. When you accused me of not DQ’ing myself a couple pages ago, I didn’t notice the winky [size=1]because it wasn’t there[/size].

Steve D.


#127

That part shouldn’t have thrown you off, it wasn’t a joke. It’s the last few comments that were intended to be funny haha. Let’s stop this banter in Ranger’s thread…okay?


#128

I wish I could participate in tomorrow’s long glorified DE :wink: , but I gotta spend some time in the office before I take Monday to Wednesday off. I must confess I am really rooting for Ranger after all he has been through!!

Steve D.


#129

Gasman doesn’t run the sprints anymore because even I beat him the last time he did B)


#130

87isMan wrote:

Actually Greg, there is more truth to your post than you realize. The race you make reference to; you recall I’m on the brakes hard to avoid the Canterbury/Taylor wreck, turn 3 at CMP and you are shooting the gap. With several caution laps in a 10-11 lap race after a wreck, there is hardly time to make up the loss of time.

In an enduro race, you have plenty of time to catch inferior racers such as yourself. :wink:


#131

Gasman wrote:

[quote]87isMan wrote:

Actually Greg, there is more truth to your post than you realize. The race you make reference to; you recall I’m on the brakes hard to avoid the Canterbury/Taylor wreck, turn 3 at CMP and you are shooting the gap. With several caution laps in a 10-11 lap race after a wreck, there is hardly time to make up the loss of time.

In an enduro race, you have plenty of time to catch inferior racers such as yourself. ;)[/quote]

It’s too bad there’s not any other racers out there to catch! :woohoo:


#132

I’m home from RA. My motor had some issues. It was good and strong, but I’m starting to wonder if the learning opportunity has been worth the trouble and expense. Mostly the expense.

The rebuild of the bottom end cost ~$3500. Don’t ask how, it’s too depressing.

On Friday, 2:45 into the enduro my big-ass harmonic balancer worked it’s way off and took out the radiator before shutting the motor down. The fact that (junkyard and shop) Strictly German is 5min from RA is fabulous.

I missed Sat practice because SG gave me the wrong size harmonic balancer, but I got out there for qual. For about half a lap. Then my timing belt went, and we’d figure out later that 2 rocker arms went with it.

The one thing that is a bit of a puzzle is that the timing belt did not break. The timing belt doesn’t look the least bit worn. But about 3" of the belt’s teeth (at the crank) are sheared right off as if something seized.

The timing belt wasn’t new, but it didn’t have many miles on it either.

What worked well was my oiling system. I was at 60psi on the track no matter what the rpms. I was running 20W50. My oil pressure was so high that I’m going to try something a little thinner next. Flow rate is really important and 60psi @ 4k rpm is a little higher pressure then I figured.

The Accusump absolutely kicked ass. 2yrs from now, I’m going to be the only guy with his original bearings.


#133

Sad to read the latest installment in this ongoing saga. I am sure that man incl me were looking forward to the triumphant return of Ranger to RA. The Accusump Project should have been the main topic of discussion over beers tonight. I was looking forward to seeing the work that was done firsthand.

Cost of repairs - ouch!
Experience gained - priceless!

I take my hat off to you


#134

Scott, I hate to hear your weekend was cut short. I had my fingers crossed for you. I was hoping all would go well on your b-day weekend.

Happy Birthday, none the less…


#135

scottmc wrote:

[quote]I was hoping all would go well on your b-day weekend.

Happy Birthday, none the less…[/quote]

Oh yea,
+1


#136

Ranger, I got a bad feeling( I hope for your sake I’m wrong) but generaly when a T belt on a bmw breaks/ slips etc)( this is from 20 years experience) you will be lucky if only several vavles are bent, if you were going at any speed your engine may be gone, . years ago when m20 were more prevelant there wasn’t a BMW shop in the ATL area that didn’t have a piston with a valve stuck to the top of it. If you broke two rockers I feel there is bad news waiting for you inside???I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!!


#137

I’m still trying to understand how a t belt can fail such that 3" of teeth shear off at the crank. That seems very strange to me. Almost as if maybe a rocker failed and that jammed the cam.

I’m trying to motivate myself to take the head off today. It’s not looking good.

If I’ve lost a piston, I can replace that without pulling the motor so that’s no big deal. I don’t want to pull the motor again. Pulling a motor, disassembling it, taking the block somewhere to be fixed, bringing it back home, reassembling it and then reinstalling it…that’s a lot of work.


#138

I feel for ya, Ranger. The fact that you aren’t standing there with matches and an oily rag is a testament to your optimism, persistence, curiosity and, most endearing, irrationality.

Steve D.


#139

Steve D wrote:

[quote]I feel for ya, Ranger. The fact that you aren’t standing there with matches and an oily rag is a testament to your optimism, persistence, curiosity and, most endearing, irrationality.

Steve D.[/quote]

In the end, victory (over car problems) will be mine.

Head is off. Pistons look fine. Which is nice.

I finally figured out that if you have some help you can lift head and both manifolds off as one unit. That’s a lot easier then removing (or installing) the manifolds with the head on the motor.


#140

My buddy had a timing belt eat a few teeth on an Acura motor once when he was racing it. We think he maladjusted the tension on the belt when he reinstalled it after a rebuild. It was a bit loose and jumped the sprocket and took a few teeth with it. Maybe something like that happened. Never did the belt on my car yet so I am not familiar with the process, yet!