RA Results Thread


#1

143.8! I was hollering so loud the car was bouncing on it’s springs.

It was lap 6 of qual and I’d just passed the checker at S/F. And the Traqmate said 143.8. That’s a PR for me by almost 2 seconds. I’d been visualing turns 3, 5 & 7 all week. I was determined to get them done just as fast as RA1’s could possibly allow. And I’d just did a time in the neighborhood of the track record. I was damned pleased.

When we got back to the paddock there was no way I was going to be able to maintain a stoic facade. I couldn’t help myself. I was leaping around and dancing like some idiot that just gave the track record a run for it’s money. It was a good day.

So I ran up to a bunch of the other guys and hollered that they could kiss my ass because I just did a 143.8. They stood there in stunned disbelief. And I savored the moment. “That’s right boys and girls, 143.8”. Then Julio-the-doubter-Palacio says “I’d have to see the time on that one”. So I go to my gear and get my reading glasses (it sucks getting old), then jump in the car and start hitting buttons on the Traqmate display. “I’m going to revisit the glory of that 143.8”, I thought to myself, and there it is…147.0.

Wait? WHAT? THERE MUST BE SOME MISTAKE!!! I’m in the wrong session, I’m in the wrong lap…where’s my goddamned 143?

It was very sad.

From now on I go grab the reading glasses before I get all excited.

After qual it started raining. The rest of the day was 40deg and light rain. It reminded me of growing up in Oregon. Since rain had not been expected, few of us had rain tires. I didn’t.

That 1:47.0 qualified me for 10th out of 19?. There was around 10 of us within a second of each other. It’s a helova series when 1sec separates the guys fighting for a podium position and the guys fighting to not be last.

A Honda ended up in the wall on the back stretch because of someone screwed up scrubbing tires. Anyone ever get the details of that? I gotta tell you, some folks do seem a little whacked about scrubbing the tires. It’s “scrubbing” not “heating”. How much debris are your tires likely to pick up in the paved RA paddock? You want to heat up your tires on the outlap? Use your brakes. I start snickering whenever I see someone scrubbing tires so hard you’d think that a rat had their tail.

Fish broke both #5 intake and exhaust rockers. In SpecE30 tradition, we loosened all rockers, pushed both rocker arm retaining shafts forward, replaced the busted pair and tapped the rocker arm shafts back in place. Fish put the radiator back in, dist rotor back together, and redid all the valve lash. Start to finish no more than 90min.

I drove conservatively during the race and had almost no drama. I had a lot of fun watching other folks go off here and there tho. I did learn that when it’s wet at RA the turn 5 exit gators are slick as ice. I’d made a choice to go ahead and use the gator instead of trying to tighten the line and requiring additional traction from the asphalt. I figured that I’d just “go easy” when I got up on the gators. Well, “going easy” isn’t enough on the turn 5 exit gators. A better plan would be “coast up the hill”.

Towards the end of the race I passed Walsh who was spinning donuts in the grass at the exit of 1. The race was getting pretty close to over so I resolved to keep him behind me. A couple laps later we got the white flag and he was getting within striking distance. By the time we were approaching turn 10 I decided that I had to take a defensive line in order to keep him from getting ideas. But that hosed my exit speed on 10b and he’d gone thru on the school line at gotten a much better 10b exit.

So there I was heading up the hill and it was looking grim for the kid. We were a couple hundred yards from the checker and Walsh had managed to get some overlap as we headed up for the crest of the hill.

I moved right a little trying to make it a little more difficult for him, but, ahh…well, this is Walsh and even if I push him so far over that he is pushed into the pit entrance, he was unlikely to lift. Trying to intimidate Walsh is, I think, futile.

I didn’t have the meanness in me to press him too hard so I gave him enough room to make it work if he could. And the problem was that he was indeed making it work. We ended up heading into 12 and he had the far drier line. I was going to to have to take the standing water that had formed on the outside of 12 on my shaved tires.

I took the outside line on 12 as fast as I dared and we seemed to me to be a dead heat at the checker. Which was a real pisser because that really meant that I’d played turns 10 poorly and done this to myself. Shit.

We ended up with the same time to a thousandths of a second. But Walsh got 8th and me 9th.

The Sunday race was a lot more fun. At least the first half that I was in. Many of you know that the start positions are established randomly in the Toy Race. But someone had the good idea that SpecE30 would instead start as a group at the rear. So we drew #'s to make that happen. I ended up in pos 2 with Stroup on Pole. And we fixed it with Jim and the Starter Chick to give us our own Green as a separate group.

There was some confusion tho. Stroup didn’t get the word. In the seconds before I had to jump into my car I told him what the plan was and hoped that I’d made sense.

When we came over turn 4 I grew a little concerned because we couldn’t see any of the 80 cars in front of us. It would be bad, I thought, for them to be far enough ahead of us that they would get green, come around the track and then plow into the rear of our group because we had dawdled. So in Pos 2 I pressed the pace and hustled, hoping Stroup would understand what I was up to.

We hustled down the back stretch and we still didn’t see any of the 80 cars that were supposed to be in front of us. So I hauled ass trying to drag everyone else with me. I got to the top of the hill after 10b and slowed up so we could reform.

Stroup cames along side and we headed down towards 12 and then the front straight. The flagger chick was down at the end of the front straight and I watched her like a hawk. And no green. Finally we were practically along side of her and I thought “Ah, they’re going to make us do another lap of FCY”

Which is when Stroup and all the odd #'s behind him floor it and go flying into turn 1.

Furious that once again I’ve f**ked up a start, I looked to starter chick and she’s still got the flag behind her. I then looked to tower 1 and it’s showing FCY. Ahh. “Maybe I didn’t screw this one up”, I thought. So I hustle up to Stroup and execute the international hand and arm signals of “tsk tsk shame on you”.

So then I refocused on the fact that we still haven’t seen the tail end of the 80 cars in front of us. “ok”, I thought, “time to catch up”. Stroup and I then hauled ass side-by side like a comp school drill all the way thru the rest of the lap. When we crested the hill before 10a we found the rest of the cars.

The start went fine. My recollection of it is a little vague. I figured that I’d be able to press the outside of 1 hard and try to cut Stroup off in 3. He’s a really nice guy so of course try I’d use that against him and pinch him out of 3. Too bad I can’t recall what actually happened.

It didn’t take long for the high hp cars to come around. Having so much traffic really made it fun. Some of those Thunder guys tho…they really have issues. It didn’t really become clear to me until today…you are pretty much forced to learn how to drive when you race a low hp car. But high hp car drivers are under no such pressure. So some of those thunder guys are just awful. There’s some AIX cars that are a menaces. They go flying down the back stretch with their eXtreme hp, and then they tip-toe thru the turns on their Hoosiers. I spent 4 laps behind some AIX goober that would leave me on the straights like I was sitting still. Ok, compared to him I practically was sitting still. But no matter how fast a guy goes down the straightaway, if he goes thru the next turn at 40mph, the SpecE30 is going to catch him. 4 laps I spent behind him. Each time we got to a turn I’d yell “OH FOR GOD’S SAKES, GO GO GO”.

In the same vein, Turnipseed raced GTSU in his SpecE30 and apparently got 3rd out of 6th on Saturday. I shake my head with wonder.

I only made it about half way thru Sunday’s race. My brakes started acting weird such that they’d throw me left under braking. I did two laps of that to ensure that it wasn’t my imagination and decided that something was wrong and that brakes were the wrong thing to take a chance with. So I came in. Most of the rest of the race was FCY anyhow.

The bummer from the weekend is that it seemed to confirm that something is going on with my engine. The damn thing is weak. It’s almost for sure an engine management issue since the A/F gauge is showing way too lean. Everyone was pulling away from me on the back stretch all weekend. And not just the AIX guys. E30 engine management is just not that complicated so it’ll get figured out one way or another.

I decided that the brakes problem was the excuse necessary to rebuild all the brakes. After I got home from RA I pulled the brakes off and removed the pistons, seals & boots. My fronts have 2yrs on them and my rears 3. Tomorrow I’ll put new seals & boots in the calipers and hopefully they’ll be ok for Roebling next weekend.

My thanks to the Palacios for letting me hooch up in their RV. Cold wet and windy are not ideal conditions for racking out under a tarp.

I acknowledge that although I titled this as a results thread I didn’t provide any results.


#2

Great write up Ranger, watching Saturdays race was indeed fun. Shame about the rain, but it didn’t seem to affect some folks out there. :slight_smile:


#3

Results were Johan dominated on Saturday along with Eric Palacio. Then it was a battle with Walsh, DeVinney, and Turnipspeed for the last podium spot until Walsh had his issue in T1 it sounds like. I think 3rd place changed hands multiple times. It seemed like Fish came through the field pretty well and was in that battle. It was a good race to watch. The Sunday race was great to watch as well with multiple lead changes. You guys always put on a great show.


#4

By class.

65537 1 Johan Schwartz 12 29:03.687 1:58.270 10 76.706
65538 919 Eric Palacio 12 29:16.169 12.482 2:00.322 11 75.398
65539 211 Warren Turnipseed 12 29:19.530 15.843 1:58.199 12 76.752
65540 410 Stephen DeVinney 12 29:22.068 18.381 2:00.269 12 75.431
65541 77 Sean Curran 12 29:22.341 18.654 1:59.422 12 75.966
65542 71 Richard Bratton 12 29:34.280 30.593 2:01.632 11 74.586
65543 609 Robert Gagliardo 12 29:36.366 32.679 2:02.103 11 74.298
65544 112 DAVID WALSH 12 29:40.150 36.463 1:59.890 10 75.669
65545 8 Scott Gress 12 29:40.150 36.463 2:03.137 4 73.674
65546 241 Robert Patton 12 29:48.000 44.313 2:04.882 11 72.645
65547 39 Allen Garner 12 29:49.033 45.346 2:03.013 12 73.748
65548 88 Andrew Zimmermann 12 30:04.213 1:00.526 2:06.884 8 71.498
65549 911 Laura Patton 12 30:05.072 1:01.385 2:06.018 4 71.990
65550 191 Julio Palacio 12 30:06.973 1:03.286 2:05.956 11 72.025
65551 53 Fred Switzer 12 30:07.475 1:03.788 2:05.939 11 72.035
65552 87 Zane Gibbs 12 30:36.728 1:33.041 2:09.810 8 69.887
65553 401 Charles Taylor 10 25:49.673 2 Laps 2:07.554 10 71.123
65554 271 Andrew Peterman 9 23:29.162 3 Laps 2:03.836 8 73.258
65555 5 Jonathan Stroup 7 19:23.864 5 Laps 2:08.678 3 70.502


#5

King Tut wrote:

Turnipspeed? Great Freudian slip.

This is a great group to race with. I hope I caught the races on video. Haven’t had time to check and this week will be hell at work.

My weekend started on Friday with a 7:00 am call from my daughter as I was turning onto Highway 53. “Daddy, come home right now!!” she cried. “Ummm, that’s going to be a little hard honey. Why?” “The history parade is today!!!” “What time?” “1:00.” “OK. Let me see what I can do.”

So I started the 8 hour enduro, drove to Sandy Springs, watched Sacagawea tell her life story, drove back to the track and hopped in for the last 90 minute stint. We (Tom Fowler, Ryan Downton and I) finished 4th in E3 a couple laps down from the winner and just behind the 3rd place Miata. First E30 though. PS - Zip tie the relays… (We had done this, but evidently one got changed but not re-zipped.)

Saturday and Sunday were as much fun as I have had on track. Ever. Longer write ups will be required. Congrats to Robert for the season championship, Johan for the Geno’s Garage Cup (and another in a long line of dominating rain race wins), Palacios for enduro domination, Walsh for ‘winning’ Sunday’s race (technically 2nd to Rob in VA, but he started in the middle of the big pack and held back to let us catch up so he could dice with us), Curran for fast race lap on Sunday, Rob for being up to speed FAST…

I ran my car in all 3 races plus a friend used it in DE1. The car is damn near bulletproof. The OPM guys kick ass (and make a mid-pack guy like me look pretty good in the process).

It’s going to be a long wait for February at CMP for Snow Jam Twenty Lebben.


#6

Steve D wrote:

I guess you used the old “wrong number” trick a few too many times. I told you’d they’d catch on kids are too smart these days.


#7

IndyJim wrote:

Not unlike the information provided to the DTOM Racing principals about their Grand Am build, the information I received about the school event was sketchy, late, caused me to miss a significant amount of racing, and cost me a lot more than I anticipated.

If your street E30 odometer doesn’t work, it’s like the miles don’t cost you anything, right?


#8

It sounds like I may have to give a family planning clinic at the next SE30 event.

Clearly you, Craig, Jones, JP, et al haven’t quite figured out how this works yet. I mean - I know the first time is exciting, but it seems like the price may be a little too steep…


#9

IndyJim wrote:

The key is to try it more than once, Jim. No wonder you are always so angry. :laugh:


#10

Ever since they stopped selling chloroform its gotten a lot harder to arrange ‘date’ night. Al has gotten very stingy with his supply…

Sorry we’re way OT here. Back to the discussion on what depth is optimal for rain tires. Thrust angles of pistons, or whatever we have on the docket for this week!
:laugh:


#11

Great OT duscussion here. I am trapped in an industrial park near I-40 in Greensboro. Apparently Obama is in town and everything is shut down until his motorcade passses through. I think it’s some sort of conspiracy. They knew I was headed home to eat a ham sandwich…


#12

Ranger, Thanks for giving me a great laugh on a crappy, cold, snowy(?) Monday. I swear I almost pissed myself when reading of your record lap…

Keep em coming…

And, I’ll tell you what - I just started to notice that my near vision has gone to crap… I can’t wrap myself around the thought of bifocals though… After all, that’s what my father wears, it can’t be the son now too…

Anyways,wish I was there - sounds like it was a great weekend.

Thanks again


#13

Finally made it back home and for the 2nd year in a row I had an awesome time down there. The track is just so damn fun and everyone always seems to have that perfect balance of racing hard on track but being laid back off the track. Really glad I made the trip and can’t wait make it back down. Once I go through the video, I’ll hopefully have some good stuff to share.


#14

Hopefully we will get some race video posted in this thread. Here is my favorite session from Sunday in DE2. I think I ran a 01:54 on the last lap when I used a stopwatch. It was one of the few clean laps I got all weekend. I was pretty happy with it and my Kumho XS tires:

http://www.vimeo.com/17550734


#15

Ranger wrote:

Breaking two rocker arms coming down the back straight on my very first lap didn’t seem like a very good sign for the weekend ahead, and subsequently I was considering calling it quits on my second and final practice lap. Thanks to Ranger for lending a hand and once again the motivation to fix the car. I was standing there scratching my head and Ranger yelled “quit standing there and lets fix it!” 90 minutes later, we were done! Thanks to the Palacios for the rocker replacements (not Febi) and to Eric and few others for pitching in and helping.

King Tut wrote:

[quote]…It seemed like Fish came through the field pretty well and was in that battle. It was a good race to watch.[/quote] I started dead last because the broken rockers kept me from qualifying, but the Fish Car really seemed to be in its’ element in the rain. It seemed like most cars were tiptoeing through turn 5 and I used that as an opportunity to pass a few cars every lap and somehow worked my way up to sixth place by the checkered flag. It helped to have working ABS and new shaved tires!! Racing in the rain was a first and not as bad as I had worried.

Anyway, it was an awesome weekend, great way to end the season, and I had an extraordinary time racing and hanging out with the SE Spec E30 gang (MA folks too)!!


#16

FishMan wrote:

Yeah I was standing on the hill at the exit of turn 5 and got to watch you get a run on them out of 5 and pull off the inside pass into turn 6.


#17

It was nice to meet everyone again. Some it was the first time and some I had meet before but it was good to see everyone there. I had a great practice and qual session. The car felt great and so did I. That’s a pretty rare combo. The crash in qual was a 944 that was scrubbing tires on a hot lap and the Honda Challenge car moved over and the hit and then the 944 went into the outside wall on the back stretch. Then the RAIN came!! I had full rains and put them on and then like an idiot I didn’t adjust/disconnect my sway bars. The car handled like ass. That was my second time on track in the rain and on a track I really don’t know that well. I was a little timid and I drove like it. Ranger blew by me in T-3 and checked on out. I then was running with Patton and I knew he was not really going to “race” me because he just wanted to finish the race to win the overall points. Congrats by the way. So once Patton repassed me I just found a little spot behind him and brought the car home in one piece. Richard in the “Fish” car did a great job coming from the back and making it up to 5th. Nice Job. I started 9th and finished 11th. I didn’t get to make the Sunday race. Sorry I didn’t get to say goodbye to anyone but Dad was not feeling well so we packed it up and went home. I look forward to seeing everyone in March. ALLEN


#18

Sure it wasn’t a Miata scrubbing tires??

Really, how many times does it take before people understand that a green track means you have to go…just like a red flag means you have to stop…

Swerving on a green track should be reason to loose your comp license…

Al


#19

Big thanks to whoever came up with the plan to let us have our race within the race!

Toy Race Video Part 1 http://vimeo.com/17586046
Toy Race Video Part 2 http://vimeo.com/17603792


#20

Toy Race: http://www.vimeo.com/17602393