New SpecE30 Camber plates

#41

I think the current rules work very well. Adjustable camber, stock pearch. The stock pearch limits camber to around -3.5 max. I don’t think that any camber plates that has to use the stock spring pearch has any advantage over another. Well, maybe solid bearing to something like K-mac but otherwise no advantage of one over another.

Another good think about the adjustable plate is if you get hit in the front and after going on the frame machine the towers are still not perfect you can adjust the camber plate to offset the moved strut towers. Don’t ask how I know about this.

Michael O.

#42

ilateapex wrote:

[quote]I think the current rules work very well. Adjustable camber, stock pearch. The stock pearch limits camber to around -3.5 max. I don’t think that any camber plates that has to use the stock spring pearch has any advantage over another. Well, maybe solid bearing to something like K-mac but otherwise no advantage of one over another.

Another good think about the adjustable plate is if you get hit in the front and after going on the frame machine the towers are still not perfect you can adjust the camber plate to offset the moved strut towers. Don’t ask how I know about this.

Michael O.[/quote]

I agree, however I prefer to word it as using the "OEM" perch, (semantics again, I know now I am being a nitpicker!). Since the overall diameter limits max camber adjustment (which seems to be the point of contention anyway) use of the OEM perch will help to enforce an overall limit. Looking at it this way allows a better safer design that does not affect the max camber asjustment.

#43

Seems easy enough to redesign the part so that that stuff that’s welded onto the OEM perch isn’t welded, but just sits there in a way that doesn’t shift around. That would make them legal.

#44

9.3.8.5. Any suspension setting (toe, caster, camber) not requiring machining or modification to factory parts is allowed.

While this is an impressive part, due to the fact that the factory part is modified, Mike and I agree that it is not legal for use in Spec E30.

Carter

#45

Carter wrote:

[quote]9.3.8.5. Any suspension setting (toe, caster, camber) not requiring machining or modification to factory parts is allowed.

While this is an impressive part, due to the fact that the factory part is modified, Mike and I agree that it is not legal for use in Spec E30.

Carter[/quote]

Carter, Mike,
Thanks for taking the time to look at the plates. It is back to the drawing board!

Walter

#46

Already readed the thread, but didn’t find an answer to my question.

For sure there is a limit of camber adjustment before hiting the body with the spring perch but here it goes…

How much camber and caster can be achieved using these camber plates?

Remember as stated in my first post, I’m not going to compete in Spec E30 events; just following a good and reliable setup.

Carlos

#47

The limit is the diameter of the stock spring. The upper spring perch will hit the body as it rotates. All the plates will yield approximately the same amount of maximum camber.

We received your email and Alex will respond in a few minutes. We stock everything you’re going to need.

Thanks!

#48

Walter Ford wrote:

[quote]The limit is the diameter of the stock spring. The upper spring perch will hit the body as it rotates. All the plates will yield approximately the same amount of maximum camber.

We received your email and Alex will respond in a few minutes. We stock everything you’re going to need.

Thanks![/quote]

Walter, is Vorshlag working on a legal SpecE30 camber plate?

#49

Walter Ford wrote:

[quote]The limit is the diameter of the stock spring. The upper spring perch will hit the body as it rotates. All the plates will yield approximately the same amount of maximum camber.

We received your email and Alex will respond in a few minutes. We stock everything you’re going to need.

Thanks![/quote]

Already got the bushings… please quote the camber plates w/oem style spring perch to 00791 (Humacao, Puerto Rico).

#50

Not that I am aware of. As it stands the current plate does not violate the "letter of the law". To address the shortcomings of the current offerings a different approach is necessary.