My Brake Failure and Questions


#1

Well Jim, I don’t think just a rebuild kit is going to get it done. So I had my driver front brakes fail this past weekend. It was my fault for not checking the inner pads prior to the race, but my question comes from why did the other 3 pads have just under 1/4 inch of pad material left and this one had none. The other three pads had a very nice even wear pattern and looked great. This is the first time I have experienced this. I was running Hawk DTC-60 pads. My other question is does anyone sell just a piston for the ATE calipers? The rest of the caliper is good and a new piston and rebuild kit is really all I need. Also does the piston from a Girling fit in an ATE? I have a set of Girlings, but I doubt it. Anyone have a spare driver front ATE they want to sell?


#2

Pistons are slightly different in height between Girling and ATE but interchangable when swapped in pairs. Bimmerworld sells stainless pistons but I think they are pricey. Used is the way to go.


#3

The site says $73 and that they are sold only in pairs. I don’t know if that means it is $73 for one and they will only let you buy two or $73 for two. I’m guessing you have to pay $146. That is certainly an option if I can’t find a used one. The rules don’t mention being allowed to swap out the OEM pistons, so I would think there would be a legality question.


#4

A-1 Cardone from Oriely for 40 a piece iirc. When I bought the car all the bleaders were broken off an where unextractable so I got the rebuilds.


#5

My understanding has been that the cheap calipers you get from the autoparts stores are not the same as the ATEs. I have had really good wear with my ATEs and brass caliper bushings, so I would like to continue to use them on all 4 corners.


#6

You cover shipping and I’ll give you a pair Girlings.


#7

Did you mean ATEs? I already said I have a complete set of Girlings that I pulled off the car when I switched to ATEs.


#8

Have you been cleaning a re-lubricating the guide bolts/bushings after every event? I’ve had uneven wear with brass bushings when I didn’t do that. That was enough of a pain to cause me to go back to the OE bushings. I replace the OE bushings every other year when I rebuild the calipers and have had no further problems with uneven pad wear.


#9

Did you mean ATEs? I already said I have a complete set of Girlings that I pulled off the car when I switched to ATEs.[/quote]
Use the pistons from the girlings and rebuild your ATE calipers.


#10

Did you mean ATEs? I already said I have a complete set of Girlings that I pulled off the car when I switched to ATEs.[/quote]
Ok, you don’t get the Girlings then.


#11

I give the guide bushings a touch of antiseize when I change pads.


#12

I clean and re-lube them with ATE Plastilube everytime I change pads and rotors so multiple times a year. All of the guide bolts had good lubrication on them when I pulled them out last week. I ended up just buying another set of freshly rebuilt front ATE calipers. I noticed that Turner Motorsports sells them and specifies ATE or Girling. At least I have tons of spares and know my options to rebuild them in the future.


#13

Did you mean ATEs? I already said I have a complete set of Girlings that I pulled off the car when I switched to ATEs.[/quote]
Ok, you don’t get the Girlings then.[/quote]

I could use them if they’re still looking for a home…


#14

Did you mean ATEs? I already said I have a complete set of Girlings that I pulled off the car when I switched to ATEs.[/quote]
Ok, you don’t get the Girlings then.[/quote]

I could use them if they’re still looking for a home…[/quote]
I have a set (or two) of Girlings that could use a home. PM me.