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The regulations state that driver and passenger seats can be replaced. Further down it also says that seats can be removed. Does this mean we don’t have to have a passenger seat? Seems pointless to have one since OEM belts can be removed and there’s no requirement for a passenger harness.
Can the rear cage braces go into the trunk area?
What is defined as the "console"?
Actually, if someone can tell me if the the #105 car shown in the photo gallery has a legal interior, that would answer most of my questions.
The issue I have is I’m taking an almost maxed out KP car and going to specE30 so I’m hoping I don’t have to go out and buy a lot of the interior stuff that I threw out long ago.
Actually, if someone can tell me if the the #105 car shown in the photo gallery has a legal interior, that would answer most of my questions.
The issue I have is I’m taking an almost maxed out KP car and going to specE30 so I’m hoping I don’t have to go out and buy a lot of the interior stuff that I threw out long ago.
AFAIK, George "Brain" Perry’s car (#105) is totally compliant (when he remembers to put his window net up 
).
The console is the E-brake surround, the gearshift surround and the sunglasses holder. The stack that contains the A/C, radio, OBC, etc has to stay, as does the entire dash, vents, heater core and instrument panel.
As for the rear braces, check the NASA CCR, which I believe has a diagram. (I think Steve Kapuchansky’s sedan has rear braces that travel through the rear bulkhead.)
Some of the cars have p/s seats, some don’t. It’s not required. I’m keeping one in just because I’d like to preserve the option to attend HPDEs and instruct (someday). Plus, it’s ballast that doesn’t count towards the 100lb max.
Post edited by: sharkd, at: 2005/10/06 21:50
9.3.13.22. Driver and passenger door panels may be replaced with 0.060-inch aluminum or comparable material, securely attached to the door.
What is a comparable material to .060 aluminum???
Ric
I use High impact ABS plastic. Much lighter and easier to work with. Dave Ellingsworth at RG engineering has the template if anyone is interested in getting a pair. I think the cost is around $100 for each door, but it might be less.
Is high impact plastic comparable to .060 aluminum?
I’d vote yes…
It sure as hell looks awesome.
Ric
"Comparable" is a word in the rules that allows for some leeway. In my humble opinion…If it’s secure, will withstand the force of an impact, will not allow window glass into the interior of the car, and isn’t made of cardboard, then it qualifies as "Comparable".
[color=#0000FF]On a broader topic…Over the years Porsche has very carefully chosen various race series to participate in. Usually because they found advantages in the rules that they could exploit and subsequently win. Take for instance the 1976 Porsche 935 turbo. It won the World Constructors’ Championship its first year out. This car absolutely dominated the competition simply because Porsche Read, Understood, and applied what was spelled out in the series rules.
The Spec E30 rules are well written. If someone is planning on entering Spec E30 racing they would be well advised to study the rules thoroughly to gain an understanding and working knowledge of what is and is NOT allowed. Short of that, look at the front-runners to see what they are doing. Going fast on the track is just as much about preparation as it is skill. [/color] 
Post edited by: brain, at: 2005/10/07 22:01
traqrat wrote:
[quote]Actually, if someone can tell me if the the #105 car shown in the photo gallery has a legal interior, that would answer most of my questions.
The issue I have is I’m taking an almost maxed out KP car and going to specE30 so I’m hoping I don’t have to go out and buy a lot of the interior stuff that I threw out long ago.[/quote]
Traqrat:
Give us some more info. Where are you located, what’s your timeframe for joining us, and what experience do you have? Where did you find your car?
And definitely study the Rules as you build your car. If it was/is "an almost maxed out KP car" then you might need to find more than a few interior bits. Check the exhaust, cam, diff, etc. and compare it all to the Spec E30 Rules.
Also, many KP cars are stripped-out much more than a proper Spec E30 car. Have a look at plenty of Spec E30 cars to get an idea of what is required.
And ask any question. The guys have given good resposes here so you have a good group to call on.
Carter
I’m located on the West Coast near SF. Basically, I already know what major components I have to "revert." I was just worried about little interior items like the front speaker covers next to the feet, and the rear shelf panel. Are there any good pictures of SpecE30 interiors other than the ones in the gallery?
Also, the NASA CR doesn’t seem too clear on whether or not I can extend the rear braces of the cage into the trunk space. This would require cutting pass-thru holes in the rear sheet metal separating the passenger compartment from the trunk area.
We have three Spec E30 cars being built in the Bay are and one in SoCal. It’s good to have another one.
I’ll be glad to take some interior photos of my car and email them to you.
Send an email to me if you want some pics.
Carter
Carter wrote:
[quote]We have three Spec E30 cars being built in the Bay are and one in SoCal. It’s good to have another one.
I’ll be glad to take some interior photos of my car and email them to you.
Send an email to me if you want some pics.
Carter[/quote]
2 of the CA spec cars were at Buttonwillow this last weekend. And two weeks ago all 3 were there. Mike Mills is up in the Bay area with 2 spec cars that you may be able to check out.