Engine Mounts and Exhaust Heat


#1

Putting my sub-frame back in this weekend. I have poly engine mounts.

The question. Should I reinstall my stock engine mount shields to protect the passenger engine mount from the exhaust. Its only a few inches away. Will the heat kill poly mounts or are they tough enough to handle it.

The car had no shields when I got it but I have some I can put back in.

Thanks.


#2

mahoneyj wrote:

[quote]Putting my sub-frame back in this weekend. I have poly engine mounts.

The question. Should I reinstall my stock engine mount shields to protect the passenger engine mount from the exhaust. Its only a few inches away. Will the heat kill poly mounts or are they tough enough to handle it.

The car had no shields when I got it but I have some I can put back in.

Thanks.[/quote]

I had no problem with my motor mounts melting but other guys have so I reinstalled the heat shield. If you do a search you’ll find the pics of melted motor mounts.


#3

My passenger side mount melted. After I replaced it I fab’d a shield sort of thing.


#4

Cobetto had his passenger side one melt this past weekend. Cost him a win…


#5

andrew240z wrote:

Debatable.


#6

I had one melt

Al


#7

RGrace wrote:

[quote]andrew240z wrote:

Debatable.[/quote]

SE has page after page of smack-talk. MA generates one word. your verbosity is as efficient as your driving mister grace, kudos :slight_smile:


#8

So it looks like I should put the OEM shield back on or fab my own. Dont feel like having a mount possibly melt on me.

Thanks


#9

Actually, one should lobby for a change to the rules to allow a solid mount. Solid or poly or plastic or rubber or wharever, none provide a performance difference.

Loss of engine support can be DIRECTLY related to safety of the racer(s) on track.

Someone please go forth and submitt this one for technical/safety evaluation. I’ve already done my share of items in the past.

RP


#10

Patton wrote:

[quote]Actually, one should lobby for a change to the rules to allow a solid mount. Solid or poly or plastic or rubber or wharever, none provide a performance difference.

Loss of engine support can be DIRECTLY related to safety of the racer(s) on track.

Someone please go forth and submitt this one for technical/safety evaluation. I’ve already done my share of items in the past.

RP[/quote]

Is there any anecdotal evidence of solid motor and/or tranny mounts causing cracks at the mounting points?

I’ve already had to both replace engine and tranny mounts. Maybe solid mounts is the answer.


#11

Ranger wrote:

[quote]Patton wrote:

[quote]Actually, one should lobby for a change to the rules to allow a solid mount. Solid or poly or plastic or rubber or wharever, none provide a performance difference.

Loss of engine support can be DIRECTLY related to safety of the racer(s) on track.

Someone please go forth and submitt this one for technical/safety evaluation. I’ve already done my share of items in the past.

RP[/quote]

Is there any anecdotal evidence of solid motor and/or tranny mounts causing cracks at the mounting points?

I’ve already had to both replace engine and tranny mounts. Maybe solid mounts is the answer.[/quote]

but is it cheap and easy? :wink:


#12

If you’re using Delrin mounts the melting point is 347F

I’ll be making a shield for mine!


#13

kishg wrote:

[quote]Ranger wrote:

[quote]Patton wrote:

[quote]Actually, one should lobby for a change to the rules to allow a solid mount. Solid or poly or plastic or rubber or wharever, none provide a performance difference.

Loss of engine support can be DIRECTLY related to safety of the racer(s) on track.

Someone please go forth and submitt this one for technical/safety evaluation. I’ve already done my share of items in the past.

RP[/quote]

Is there any anecdotal evidence of solid motor and/or tranny mounts causing cracks at the mounting points?

I’ve already had to both replace engine and tranny mounts. Maybe solid mounts is the answer.[/quote]

but is it cheap and easy? ;)[/quote]
Not replacing is cheaper and easier then replacing.

But I talked to Chuck Baader about this tonight to get his thoughts. His perception is that metal mounts put a lot of stress on the mount points, increasing the risk of cracking.

We are allowed to reinforce mounting points tho, so I suppose there’s an obvious solution. Someday maybe I’ll be a decent welder and those kinds of mods won’t seem like such a pita.


#14

Since I had my subframe out I reinforced the engine mount location. I was not that hard and basic welding skills can get you by.

Ranger, find a local Vo-Tech school and take a welding class. I did that a few years ago and learned a lot. The welding class was cheap and easy.


#15

mahoneyj wrote:

[quote]
Ranger, find a local Vo-Tech school and take a welding class. I did that a few years ago and learned a lot. The welding class was cheap and easy.[/quote]
Ya, I’ve been thinking about that.


#16

ive had the mounts brake off with stock bushings.