Camber Plates

#1

Anyone have any experience running RTRS brand adjustable camber plates (I think they may have chaged their name to Dragonwerks)? Any thoughts on how these compare to KMacs?

Thanks,
Sasha

#2

Can’t compare them to anything.

But I have some in my car.

Seem to work fine. Only caveat…When the instructions say to torque to only 10ftlbs. They mean it.

At least they happily sent me new bolts!!! They are Stainless steel and very soft.

Ric

#3

KMAC and RTRS are both crap. Get the new Ireland camber plates.

#4

robweenerpi wrote:

We all know now that Rob hasn’t figured out just how to express an opinion in a grown up way.

Personally as a small business owner and a sales person I learned a long time ago not to denigrate a competitors product as that usually puts a bad light back on you, even if you have a superior product.

As a customer (in the past and in the future) of Bimmerworld I expect better. I wouldn’t expect to James to just run a business this way.

Now if you were to show just why the Ireland Engineering Product was a superior product that would be helpful.

Lecture mode off. Have a nice day.

Ric

#5

I run KMAC’s and think they are pretty nice compared to the fixed plates I started with.

I’m sure the IE plates are good too.

brain

#6

Sorry Ric I’m a young guy that hasn’t learned to pull his punches yet. I hope you can forgive me.

With the amount of plates on the market this should be an easy desision to make. Take all the plates that are added onto the top of the stock strut mount and go ahead and take them out of the equation for spec E30. There is no need to run these and add even more height to the car. 6 Cylinder cars need to be as low as possible in the front.

Then you have KMAC, which are adequate for a street car but so so in this application. The softer mount gives away shock damping and flex gives away repeatability in settings.

The only solution is to go with a solid upper mount like Irelands. Should give more adjustment as well. Once you are adjusted it’s set and stays. Over time you will be able to develop a more refined setup for a better driving and faster car. These are racecars you’ll need every .5 per lap that you can get once more cars are on track. It’s silly to give it away on a simple part like camber plates.

Sorry to offend anybody if I did. I’ll give a better explaination next time instead of going straight to the summary. Remember that most E30 guys are cheap and that most of these parts were designed to be economical solutions for street guys.

#7

Rob’s second post does make sense…but my K Macs worked fine this past season. Could I have gone a little faster with solid mounts? Probably.

I got my KMacs at a special deal, a few years ago. If anyone already bought some, don’t feel like you got junk. I don’t.

Someday, I might go to a lower and solid mount but I’ll stick with the KMacs for now.

Carter

#8

I’ve not used the Kmacs but have used the RTRS plates. I switched them out when I took the car off the road for permenant track usage. While the RTRS plates are effective at changing camber, they’re somewhat clumsy to use and don’t seem very intuitive (i.e., you have to knock on the bolts to loosen the plate between camber changes). I’ll second the issue regarding torque specs. I didn’t break mine, but they warned me about this possibility at least 4 times when I ordered the plates.

#9

I have fixed IE plates and they do not allow anymore than 1.8 deg camber in my car, so these are not a good solution unless you want to do some re-engeneering :frowning:

Not sure what I am going to do to fix the problem. Any suggestions?

Carlton

#10

Carlton wrote:

[quote]I have fixed IE plates and they do not allow anymore than 1.8 deg camber in my car, so these are not a good solution unless you want to do some re-engeneering :frowning:

Not sure what I am going to do to fix the problem. Any suggestions?

Carlton[/quote]

Maybe try the adjustable IE plates?

#11

Hey Carlton,
Have you checked out what Korman has? They list an adjustable front camber plate for race/track use on their web site, and since they are in your neighborhood you might be able to see them before you buy. They may well be KMAC or RTRS (that is what we have on our car).

Ed