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I’m thinking about getting a competition license so that I may be able to drive some enduro events.
I can’t go through NASA school because Mr. Junky is not race prepped. However, I think I may be able to attend BMWCCA school with Mr. Junky.
So, if I get a BMWCCA rookie license, can I use that with NASA or convert that to a NASA license?
Yes, I completed a BMWCCA Club Racing School and got my certificate. NASA then respects the BMWCCA comp school certification and grants you a NASA rookie license (or at least they did a few years ago). I can’t speak to the NASA comp schools, but the BMWCCA school at Roebling was worth every penny. 16 mock starts just as an example…
Chi, thank god you’re finally going to stop with the point bys. You’ll never look back, I promise.
hmm… ok. There is a BMWCCA school at VIR in July.
BMWCCA school only requires a helmet for the safety equipment so I should be able to attend that school.
I shall see if I can make it to that school.
You will need to speak to the regional director about useing another sanction’s license as a basis for a provisional NASA license. In the MA region, Chris will need an on-track resume in addition to a provisional from another sanction.
John & I used our CCA Rookie licenses to get our NASA provisional licenses last spring - you shouldn’t have any problem. Printed the form from the NASA website, filled it out, included a copy of the CCA license and my money and mailed it off to National. Our shiny new NASA licenses arrived a little over a week later, no questions asked 
You’ll REALLY enjoy the CCA CR school - we attended one (way back in '03) using our daily drivers to see if the whole racing thing might be something we wanted to try. It was like switching out a smoking habit for crack. :woohoo:
We’re good friends with Scott & Fran Hughes, the folks who run the schools and approve the licenses… they always do their best to get a great group of instructors together. There was a school this past weekend at Mid Ohio and I know that they had James Clay and TC Kline in the house helping with the schooling…
oh well, that’s not going to work. 
The new rule for SE is that you have to complete two BMWCCA races before NASA will honor the BMWCCA license to be converted over to NASA license.
Back to HPDEs.
you mean do BMWCCA enduros? I was hoping to do NASA enduros but first, I have to get a license.
I think that Brendan is suggesting is that you get the CCA license and satisfy the two race requirement in BMW enduro events. If you’d had the license at the time we could have knocked one out at the PBOC event at Barber.
Another possibility is to work a deal with someone and rent a car for the race school. There’s plenty of time to work that out as the next Comp school in the SE won’t be until August at Road Atlanta.
Chi, Fred and I attempted last year to do what you described. We had our BMWCCA Provisionals andwe wanted to get our NASA comp licenses without going to the NASA comp school. Jim said “No. You have to go to NASA comp school to get a NASA comp license.”
So you’re not being singled out.
If Jim had known what a problem child I was he’d a said instead “Fred’s ok, but Scott’s a troublemaker”.
You can borrow my car for the RA comp school. Or if you are highly motivated, trailer it to a FL or ME comp school. Recompense would be a couple cases of beer. Good beer. No mass market weasel piss.
For those of you familiar with both comp schools, BMWCCA and NASA, which do you think is better and why?
Ranger wrote:
ohhh… with tricked out head and sophisticated brake balancing… I don’t know if I can handle that beast.
Thanks for the offer. I’ll keep that in mind.
Gilles wrote:
I went to both. They were too different to label one as better then the other. The BMWCCA school spent a lot of time talking thru different passing and contact situations and discussing who was at fault. That was very useful, and my NASA school didn’t do that.
Before my racer peers sniff at that idea, it’s really useful to talk thru grey areas in passing. Like:
Driver 1 divebombs driver 2. Driver 2 shuts the door on 1 and a colision occurs. Driver 1 didn’t have position so driver 2 didn’t have to give him racing room. But driver 1 had signaled his intent several times to the divebomb should have been predicted. Driver 1 didn’t do it as a big surprise so driver 2 should have seen it coming. Driver 2 could have given a little room and therefore could have prevented the contact. Who’s at fault?
That’s just one example. Once you get into the complexities of “signaling intent”, the pass hapening so fast that even tho a guy had position it just took the other guy completely by surprise. Therefore a failure to signal intent.
My point is that there’s a lot of grey areas and it’s useful for everyone to wargame them so they become more away of the subtleties of passing.
The NASA school put more stress on the comp student then the BMWCCA school did. My NASA comp school’s focus seemed to be “lets put some stress on these guys so we can flunk folks that clearly aren’t ready for this”. While on the track, “mentors” were all over us, intentionally creating anxiety. Attempting to screen out folks that aren’t ready is also useful and BMWCCA didn’t do that.