Anyone know anything about karting?


#21

And down the slippery slope does our fearless Ranger go…

Clue me in; the wheel had to go on backwards???

You’ll get very used to changing kart tires… There’s a very affordable tire press that breaks the bead for dismounting. Mounting most kart tires is a breeze with a little sunlight, lubricant, and screwdrivers.


#22

[quote=“PDS” post=70443]… a breeze with a little sunlight, lubricant, and screwdrivers.[/quote] I think that’s how he convinced Mrs. Ranger to have 3 kids with him.


#23

[quote=“PDS” post=70443]Clue me in; the wheel had to go on backwards???
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I got the offset backwards when I ordered the wheel. The diagram showed the measurements, but didn’t show which side was the front or the back. I don’t recall the exact dimensions but if the wheel is 6" wide and had 4" offset, I ended up getting 2" offset. So I reversed the wheel and except for the inboard valve stem it was good to go.


#24

Ahhhh, so the story of the neighbor & the gun is starting to make a lot more sense…


#25

“I got the offset backwards when I ordered the wheel. The diagram showed the measurements, but didn’t show which side was the front or the back. I don’t recall the exact dimensions but if the wheel is 6” wide and had 4" offset, I ended up getting 2" offset. So I reversed the wheel and except for the inboard valve stem it was good to go".

I take it these are hub mounted wheels??? Got it.

A little advice - when you get to the point of wanting to tune the chassis balance - forget everything you’ve learned about cars. Does note relate in any shape or fashion. And belive me, these karts can be much more difficult -simple they are not.

I’ll give you a ltille primer. You can adjust with rear axel stiffness (hard, medium, soft), front and rear track width, seat position, caster/camber, ackermen, and removeable side rails…

Yeah I know, it’s just for my kids to have fun with…


#26

Re. neighbor and gun . Sadly, I sold the gun just before the whole market went crazy. I’ve been meaning to replace it but haven’t been able to find a decent deal. Gun show this weekend tho. Need a Glock 27 and a decent .380.

I scored quite a coup today. I needed to get the kids out for some test and tune in the kart. They’ve only been in little putt putt karts so really don’t know what they are getting into. And I don’t know what to expect from the kart either. So I really need to get them into the kart and have them run around a bit before we head to CMP. The problem was…where to do it. The cops would be on me in a minute if we ran around our gentrified part of Savannah.

So I went to my company’s CEO today, my boss’s boss, and asked him if I could use the parking lot this weekend for kart test and tune and, somewhat to my surprise he said “ok”. Woohoo.


#27

Very cool… This is bringing back great memories…

“Break” the kids in slowly… Let them get used to it at their own pace. If and when you can get to your local track try and get permission during a practice day to stand out at various turns and points on the track. You can then actually point to the apex and turn in points to show your kids the correct line. Keep your eyes open and practice your standing jump. If good, you can clear a kart that’s on a direct path to your ankles!

Most of all - Make it fun for your kids - your satisfaction will come from that…

PS - Not trying to be preachy - not my personality at all


#28

I always use a throttle stop for kids with their first time out. One that works on the throttle linkage by the carb, NOT at the pedal. When kids feet step on or get on the cable coming from the pedal, it makes a pedal stop useless. I’ve seen adults get their feet in the cable too.
Once they get used to the kart and slower speeds, then we move the stop to allow more throttle until it gets removed for good.
(Edited: I just noticed on your pic that you’ve got the linkage bar off the pedal. I like that setup better. Some karts have cable only going from pedal to carb).
On clones, we put the throttle stop on the bare throttle cable and use the throttle mounting plate as the stop right at the brass fitting where the cable housing terminates.


#29

The throttle stop you describe is something that reduces “the range” of throttle movement? Like it can only go to half throttle?


#30

That is correct, it limits how much the throttle will open.
A kids first time out, we “lock the throttle down” so it doesn’t open at all and set the carb to a high idle. We make sure they know to hit the brakes and how to use the brakes first. Set up a cone or a milk crate and tell them to stop at it. Then we slowly let the throttle stop out so they gather more speed.

I’ve seen a few dads OVER estimate what there kids know, only to turn them loose full tilt the first time out and wind up with a damaged kart and a scared kid.
Even that clone motor you have is way faster then any “arcade” type kart around. There is a 7/10’s mile track we run on with a long back straight. The clone karts hit 60 mph pretty easy down that straight.

Beginners tend to burn their clutches up quick from all the extra engaging/ disengaging that the clutch goes through. A good drum and shoe type clutch for a beginner is a brand called Max Torque. they are used on mini bikes and yard karts. They withstand the constant on-off of the throttle very well. Most of the nicer racing clutches are set up to be locked out quicker and quickly burn up the shoes from all the heat created from on again off again use.


#31

That’s great info, thanks.

It’d be my ass if the wife knew these things were that fast.


#32

No prob. Hopefully you guys will have fun with it.


#33

#1 son and I spent the day at CMP. The “Daddy and me” effort was a big success.

Also at CMP was the 24hrs of Lemons crowd. They are doing “full track”, which must be a helova lot more fun than the silly 1mi. abbreviated course that they used to do. One of cars was an airplane. Someone took the an entire Cessna, a real Cessna in bright AL sheetmetal, lopped off the wings and the bottom 6" of the craft, then laid it on top of some car. Even the pilot’s dash was intact. It was the most awesome Lemons car I’ve ever seen.


#34

Glad to hear the karting is going well.

About the planecar: Speedycop built it. He is the source of many of the most insane LeMons builds. I’ve been meaning to catch up on the airplane/Toyota minivan build.

http://www.speedycop.com/spirit-of-lemons.html

Some of his other wackiness:
http://hooniverse.com/2012/08/05/weekend-edition-24-hours-of-lemons-legend-speedycop-with-a-new-track-project/
http://ronman.org/pics/speedycop/
-A Lancia Scorpion body on a MR2 chassis
-An E36 with '50s Plymouth body panels


#35

[quote=“cheapthrills” post=71419]Glad to hear the karting is going well.

About the planecar: Speedycop built it. He is the source of many of the most insane LeMons builds. I’ve been meaning to catch up on the airplane/Toyota minivan build.

http://www.speedycop.com/spirit-of-lemons.html

Some of his other wackiness:
http://hooniverse.com/2012/08/05/weekend-edition-24-hours-of-lemons-legend-speedycop-with-a-new-track-project/
http://ronman.org/pics/speedycop/
-A Lancia Scorpion body on a MR2 chassis
-An E36 with '50s Plymouth body panels[/quote]

That guy should drink beer free for life.