Anyone else suprised with Barber track time?


#1

Looks like Blitz only gets 55 total minutes on Saturday and 40 total minutes on Sunday. HPDE will have nearly double that. The 25 minute races will be interesting.


#2

where is the schedule posted?


#3

http://www.nasa-se.com/2014Feb15.php On the right hand side of the page.


#4

It is definitely considerably less track time then I am used to with the Mid South region, but we only run one race group normally.


#5

I asked Jim about this. Apparently the event is under tight time constraints per Barber’s rules and NASA can’t get more time in the evening or at lunch.


#6

Don’t know what could be done on Saturday other than combine the 3:20 and 3:40 sessions and pick up 20 min. On sunday if they combined the 3:40 and 4:00 groups and eliminated the 4:40 group, DE 1&2 would still get four sessions each and we would pick up 40 minutes of race time between 3 race groups.


#7

That’s a lousy amount of time. Tons of paying racers and not a cheap price. Even combining 1 pair of DE sessions each day would yield 20 minutes per day, which is 6-7 minute for each race group. Where’s a petition to sign?


#8

Makes one want to re-think the worth of all the $$ for the 25 min races.
Better hope we do not have a caution :ohmy:


#9

I agree with Eric and Chuck. If I didn’t already live in Birmingham I would seriously reconsider the event. Just my personal feelings. ALLEN


#10

Start a conversation at NASAForums. Make your voice heard. Dream up a solution that will annoy the fewest participants.

Maybe if a bunch of racers wrote that they’d be willing to pay an additional $20 at Registration so Barber could get it’s fee for over-time, that could influence how this goes. I pulled that $20 number out of my butt, so don’t quote me.


#11

There was one already started and it is now mysteriously missing…


#12

You beat me to the punch. I also saw it on the NASA forums yesterday and when I looked this morning…


#13

I didn’t see yesterday’s but I just started this one.

http://nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=127458


#14

You beat me to the punch. I also saw it on the NASA forums yesterday and when I looked this morning…[/quote]
The NASA-SE forum has a huge problem with spam. Only the mods see it, but it’s there. Each day many hundreds of spam posts have to be deleted by the mods. It’s really awful and consumes a lot of time. Occasionally a legit thread gets deleted accidentally.


#15

I have read that this was a big problem on that site. Probably what happened.


#16

An idea is being discussed where Sunday Qual time would be used to race instead. So Sunday grid would be determined by Sat race finish. This would mean a 40min race on Sunday. Thoughts?


#17

Yes. I would much rather race than qualify.


#18

I agree with turning Sunday qualifying session into Race time.


#19

Me too but I don’t see why the DE’s can’t lose a session or combine a session so that we don’t have to give up qualifying. They have four sessions to our two. And the late sunday DE sessions are usually skeleton crews.


#20

We can easily move the DE sessions to earlier in the day and move the Blitz race to the end of the day.