2009 tentative schedule


#1

CMP, RA and Barber. Plus one event at the track that is being built North of RA. One event is still TBA. Goddamn sad to see Roebling absent.

http://www.wildhorsesracing.com/bucketlist.html

Precisely why Roebling is absent is a subject of some discussion, but the picture that is emerging is that they got tired of our griping. There may be a lesson there for us to do our griping in private.


#2

WTF!?!?!


#3

The Roebling thread at NASAForums has more background on the absence of Roebling dates. Mostly the thread is just a collection of the same griping that alienated the Roebling management in the first place. I figure that if I can keep a civil tongue re. Roebling, anyone can.

Anyone can bitch. It takes discipline to keep your mouth shut and suck it up.


#4

This is america: if enough people make enough noise, they generally get what they want. :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

Seriously, this was the biggest and most popular se30 race of the year. I know a lot of people including me were really looking foward to this one in '09…

Moving on- IFU3 at CMP? :cheer:


#5

Ranger wrote:

[quote]The Roebling thread at NASAForums has more background on the absence of Roebling dates. Mostly the thread is just a collection of the same griping that alienated the Roebling management in the first place. I figure that if I can keep a civil tongue re. Roebling, anyone can.

Anyone can bitch. It takes discipline to keep your mouth shut and suck it up.[/quote]

I hear ya, Scott. I do love to race at Roebling. It’s by far one of my favorite tracks to race. But I’ll be more than happy to withhold my financial support of those people. We shouldn’t be rewarding them for the way they run that place.


#6

I know in my business if I’ve got upset customers, for whatever reason, I usually try and work through the problems, not just tell them to go away. I mean, eventually I might tell them I can’t help them, but to cancel events because you’ve probably got 5% of the people who attend upset for whatever reason? I don’t get it.

This might remind the people at RRR who the customer is. What about Hutchinson Island? What’s that going to be like when it’s finished, Scott?

John


#7

drumbeater wrote:

And Roebling management’s reaction might remind the racers who owns the track. :frowning:

Yes, we are the customers. But more importantly, we are guests at their ‘home.’

As a non-profit, their mission is probably something like “Rent RRR out to non-SCCA groups enough to break even and keep costs low for the Buccaneer Region. Don’t rent it out to jerks unless you really need the money.”

Kay and the crew may be a little gruff, but we just lost the NASA dates at a very driver-friendly track. There’s a reason why SCCA runs a lot of their driver schools at that track.

Steve D.


#8

From my quick scan of the thread on nasaforums, I don’t know if the issue is as dead as this thread makes it sound.

There may be a couple dates at Roebling…

Steve D.


#9

We’ll definitely do an IFU-3 somewhere in the schedule next year, if Jim will let us :wink:

Seriously, I’d love to see an informal, all-comers SE30 event somewhere next year. Maybe if we bundled the IFU-3 along with an open invitation to FL, MA and even OH/IN guys to come do an event, the 3-races in a weekend might just be enough to bring everybody in.

Maybe a LeMans finish (park at the last corner and run to the checker), or LeMans start (have wife/girlfriend/SO run to your car before you roar off), the possibilities are far from exhausted!

I’ve got a lot of faith yet that NASA and RRR will eventually come to an understanding, so we can race there next year (it’s definitely MY favorite track) but if not, we’ll probably shoot for doing something at CMP.


#10

I guess I didn’t know they operated as a non profit. I thought they tried to make money at it.

DB


#11

I like Roebling also and it’s only 3.5 hours away from home. Lets hope something gets worked out here and they will be back on the schedule.


#12

ctbimmer wrote:

[quote]

Maybe a LeMans finish (park at the last corner and run to the checker), or LeMans start (have wife/girlfriend/SO run to your car before you roar off), the possibilities are far from exhausted!

…we’ll probably shoot for doing something at CMP.[/quote]

“park at the last corner and run to the checker”…Does the over 50 crowd get a wheel chair to the checker?.

FYI - I don’t think I’d tow all the way to CMP for an IFU-3…It would depend on when in the schedule it was for me. Roebling is a 6 hr tow, ATL is 8 hrs, CMP is 10+ for me.

Don


#13

Road atlanta doesn’t look like as good of a “racing track” as CMP.

I think if IFU3 were at CMP there could be 40 cars with our own run group for the sprints. That would be friggen awesome! For those guys out of region who have talked about doing just one or two se races, this would be the one.


#14

ctbimmer wrote:

[quote]

or LeMans start (have wife/girlfriend/SO run to your car before you roar off), the possibilities are far from exhausted!

.[/quote]

I like the idea but this is clearly unfair. I’ve seen Jim Robinson’s boyfriend and he looks like he can out run most women. We may have to have him keep his rollerblades on. :laugh:


#15

Once Carter finalizes the SE30 performance enhancing drug policy, you’ll be DQ’d anyway.

Every region has submitted urine samples and right now the top researchers in the country are working on the limits.


#16

This proves it–there is no thread, no matter how innocuous, that you guys can’t take down into the pits. Good job; I didn’t know you had it in you.


#17

IndyJim wrote:

Fixed it for you.


#18

allenr wrote:

Which is why they have to run rinky-dink series like World Challenge and Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta…:stuck_out_tongue:

Robert, it is a fantastic racing track. Unless you like slow, tight corners where it is safe to bump another car. If so, we should probably rent the local Malibu Grand Prix track for you. :wink:

Road Atlanta has some huge gut-check areas and the price for going off can be pretty high, but racing has risks, right? Add in the blind crests, downhill esses, very high speed braking zone into 10a… Maybe I am biased, but I love racing at RA. If you get a chance to come down here, you have a free place to stay at my shack!

Steve D.


#19

That makes it a great driving track, not necessarily a great racing track.
IMO CMP has more passing zones and its easier to go side by side… but I havnt raced road atl (just watched a ton of vids) so I could be wrong.

EDIT: Thanks for the hospitality too. Soon I will be a college bum hitch-hiking across the country to different tracks and mooching off every one of you :):stuck_out_tongue: .


#20

Yes, Chuck. Some of these guys are like caged monkeys, stuck in their cubicles just waiting for the chance to jack a thread. I imagine Indy Jim has some sort of computerized warning system for every new post to the board, he also probably has a program that tosses any post that does not have enough bad attitude. Good luck ever getting a thread to continue on it’s desired course without any juvenile posts…

Rev. Alonzo Graham Taylor III esq. etc.