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I found Fred’s video: http://vimeo.com/113964851
I may post some footage (if I can manage to edit it together) of my first wet weather escapades during the DE this weekend. I’d like to get some criticism from Mr. Mckay on my subpar recovery skills. I guess they were good enough on account of the car that came home as straight as it was when it left.
That’s a good description. Pretty much the way I remember it. Did Fred get video behind you?
Congratulations to the contingency winners for Saturday’s race
1st Rob Eskew, $100 Bimmerworld and $150 Hawk certificates
2nd Scott McKay, $100 Hawk certificate
3rd Mark Issa, $75 Hawk certificate
6th Sandro Espinosa, PFC pads from Bimmerworld, $25 UUC certificate
7th Aaron Whitinger, $50 Phils Tire bucks
9th Jon Manhood, $25 UUC gift certificate
11th Scott Gress, $50 Bimmerworld certificate
Last finisher, Laura & Danny Parkhurst, $25 UUC gift certificate
[quote=“Ranger” post=79768]I worked on my video today but the commentary got goobered up so I have to fix it tomorrow. It doesn’t show much. The camera catches AR’s spin in the distance but the camera is to my right so it can see things that I couldn’t. I was glued to your rear end. Because of the rain and all the other cars, it was hard to see much thru the other cars windows. I could see thru your windows somewhat, but I couldn’t really see thru the windows of the car in front of you. Since AR was 3? cars in front of you, what was going on with him was, to me, invisible.
The appearance of AR broadside in front of you took me totally by surprise. In a microsecond you were knocked left by the impact into AR, and I helped you along by clipping your RR. I stood on the brakes but since I was practically touching your bumper when it started, I only had 12’ of braking before I hit AR with my RF.
That’s a long way of saying…all my video shows is your rear. Then suddenly you’re gone, there’s AR, bang. Elapsed time 0.25sec.
I’ll try to load up the relevant scrap tonight.
Later edit. Wasn’t that hard to fix after all. https://vimeo.com/114076338[/quote]
Lets help the guys that took a beating. We lost a lot of cars in this incident. It was right up there with the worst incidents we’ve ever had in the region, VIR in 2013, and CMP in 2008. Ben, a relative newby, is now faced with a complete retub, not a huge deal for someone that has been working on their car for years, but a helova lot harder for someone relativelynew to the series. AR is faced with rebuilding his car a 2nd time in the same year…a trial experienced, I believe, only by Robert Patton.
Fred already has a line on a caged tub and will be assisted by Robert in the swap of go-fast parts. With a bit of luck the 3 of us are going to link up at Robert’s in a couple weeks and with those 2 working and me in the background providing [strike]criticism[/strike] suggestions, we should be able to get a good start.
AR is pretty self-sufficient because he has a crew to assist. His crew is new to SpecE30 tho so there’s questions that he will need help with.
Ben lives near RA. Atlanta based guys I would ask that you reach out to him and see how you might help.
Subject change. Reducing risks in the first couple turns. As you can see in Fred’s video, I was on Ben’s rear bumper like paint. It wouldn’t have killed me to have been 6-10’ farther back to improve visibility and provide reaction time for incidents.
I’ve long admired the Miata guys for how they are able to go thru turns in trains w/o daylight hardly appearing between bumpers. Our front runners are pretty darn good at it too. I’ve been trying, the last couple of races, to come out of turns as glued to someone’s tail as I was before the braking zone. It seemed to me that if the Miata guys could stay glued to someone’s rear, I ought to be able to do it.
I recognize now that this idea is too dangerous for starts. It’s one thing to be glued to someone’s rear in a train of 2 or 3 with good visibility beyond. In that scenario you have perfect visibility of both cars ahead, and you can see pretty much everything the leader is seeing.
There’s a lot less visibility in a start tho. When you’re 2 and 3-wide and at mid-pack the visibility thru the other guy’s windows becomes limited because the view is so chaotic. You see so much movement thru the windows ahead that if something goes wrong 3-5cars up, you won’t necessarily detect it.
If I had allowed 6-10’ of space between Ben and I, there might have been time for me to dart right and avoid AR. Maybe Fred would have followed me, never a safe plan, and therefore missed Ben.
So from now on, I’m going to leave some more space in front of me at starts, unless the visibility is really good. Y’know, like maybe I’m starting at pole.
Sorry, Scott, spec racing doesn’t work that way. If you leave a gap someone will take it. That is part of the attraction to the spec series, that is part of the risk.
It is so unfortunate that there was $$$ damage to multiple cars at RA. Rain or not, RA is a treacherous place.
Perhaps you’ll have to join the Spec E30 OFL.
Rumor has it that the OFL series will debut next year at the first Southeast race. The OFL could feature single file starts with rules that you rebuild your buddy’s car if you touch it.
Seriously, starts are fun, but the real racing starts in lap 2. Since it is only me and Laura in the series, and I fix her car anyway, I like that rule. We’ll still run an SE30 banner so that the field gets the benefit of 2 more cars participating.
RP
[quote=“allin” post=79766]I now have GoPro Hero4 set at 1080p wide with 60fps. After converting I load the full resolution to YouTube. I’m going to start dabbling with 4k soon.
Are you asking because it’s good or bad? Let me know I always like it to be as good as it can be for family and friends.[/quote]
It’s very good and clear. After watching your vid, i’ve realized It’s time for me to upgrade my go pro…
It sucks to see cars get destroyed on track… But from the Facebook photos, it looks like you all had a great time off the track.
Here is my video from Sunday’s Toy Run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDebb6yRUM
Pretty exciting race all around. Had a great race with Arjun right up to the checkered flag. I let up on the white flag lap a little too soon and he caught back up to me. He initiated a pass on the inside of the back straight going down into the braking zone of 10. I was hesitant to run the defensive line because of the oil and debris that was scattered all over there which had nearly taken me out, like Manhood, a couple laps prior.
Judging from my time spent watching everyone pull 10+ car lengths on me down the back straight, I think it is time to build a motor!
I will post Saturday’s rain race video later tonight. I had a front row seat for the lap one melee. Narrowly avoided Scott, AR, and some random bumpers flying across the track.
Sandro, keep your honey in the jar and off my car! :lol:
[quote=“Patton” post=79779]Sorry, Scott, spec racing doesn’t work that way. If you leave a gap someone will take it. That is part of the attraction to the spec series, that is part of the risk.
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I hear you. The idea of leaving a gap in front of you during busy starts kind of requires an attitude adjustment to “I really don’t give a shit if that guy passes me.”
Being in front of someone frustrating the crap out of his efforts to set up a pass, or being behind him driving him crazy while I laugh, it’s all the same fun.
After 4 or 5 turns we’re mostly in a single file train and people in the mid-pack can see. I’ll (try to) close up then.
Had a great race on Sunday. Spec E30 has some of the most competitive yet fair drivers that I have ever raced with…
Glad to be running with an awesome bunch of guys…
Harkin and Walsh…great to race side by side with you guys…
For all you guys with destroyed cars, is this a bad time to remind you that I own 4 of these cars and really only need 2? If you want a top built car, drop me a line, as I’d like to sell two of my four.
You need to watch the movie “The Usual Suspects” and you will know who Keyser Soze is.
e-mail me at smckay@mckay-law dot com and we can talk. You’ll be without excuses as to why you’re driving around in the back at that point, as my stuff runs in the front.
Is this what somebody is supposed to say when they buy one of your cars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj5vERbLtYI&feature=player_detailpage#t=23
:laugh:
If you check your video you’ll see me in front of you on some of the rare occasions that I’m on the track.
But I hear what you’re sayin’ 
Julian Cates, well done brother, well done.
Benny: The cars I have for sale have special front bumpers. The have negatively polarized magnets in them. They actually repel other cars away from it, to the point, I’ve never wrecked any of them. You have the same magnets, but they were installed backwards. Yours are positively polarized and they attract cars to the bumper. That’s bad.
I didn’t get any good video of your crash into AR, but thats only because I dont have a rearward facing camera. 
‘Negatively charged bumper’ …Allllrighty then…
Its time to introduce you guys to - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
I am not responsible for any of you hurting your butts if you fall out of your chairs…
Happy Holidays.
Dude! Why didn’t you tell me my magnets were backwards two years ago!!?? You would’ve saved me a lot of heartache, thousands of dollars and gotten me a ton more track time.
Check Fred’s video for a good view of the pileup out of turn 3.
